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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

This commenter may be saying something we already knew, but it's nice to have the confirmation that Anthropic is chock full of EAs:

(I work at Anthropic, though I don't claim any particular insight into the views of the cofounders. For my part I'll say that I identify as an EA, know many other employees who do, get enormous amounts of value from the EA community, and think Anthropic is vastly more EA-flavored than almost any other large company, though it is vastly less EA-flavored than, like, actual EA orgs. I think the quotes in the paragraph of the Wired article give a pretty misleading picture of Anthropic when taken in isolation and I wouldn't personally have said them, but I think "a journalist goes through your public statements looking for the most damning or hypocritical things you've ever said out of context" is an incredibly tricky situation to come out of looking good and many of the comments here seem a bit uncharitable given that.)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

... the EAristocrats!

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LOL from the comments

[...] "people having unreasonably high expectations for epistemics in published work" is definitely a cost of dealing with EAs!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is funny as in my exp this unreasonably high expectations for epistemics only applies to things they disagree with, see for example the LW guy used a IQ and education list published by a tabloid (which the tabloid said it had from a different source, but it wasn't linked). Vs saying something they disagree with which requires you to not only produce the scientific article you got it from, but also the specific paragraph from the article, and a list of steelmanned counterarguments.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 3 points 13 hours ago

Bayes' theorem, baby!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

Putting the EA in sealion

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was really confused about the article until I figured out EA isn't Electronic Arts.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

Lucky you. The infection has not taken hold, you can still save yourself. Run!

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It stands for Effective Altruism, which isn't about either of those things.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

Which also isn’t about either of those things.