As a citizen of a former EU country (UK, of course) I think that too.
I'm still salty about Brexit.
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As a citizen of a former EU country (UK, of course) I think that too.
I'm still salty about Brexit.
As an irish person, brexit drove up the price of shipping on ebay, so i oppose it.
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The red-green party here in Denmark was against EU until Brexit - now there's no party against EU. Thanks Britain for showing the rest of EU how big of a fuckup it is to stand outside Schengen and everything else.
Perfect analogy.
The UK was never a part of the Schengen, even while being a part of the EU
22% are idiots :)
Or listening to government propaganda in Hungary
Or view it as an imperialist institution and think their countries are better off with fiscal autonomy over a shared currency. Really, most anti-eu leftists argue mostly against using the euro than anything else from what I read
If we're talking about the big, rich EU counties, then yes. But for poorer ones, EU has genuinely fucked some of them over via imposing austerity and offloading debts onto the working classes of those nations, often via strong arming.
Greece is an explosive example of this, being fucked over by their incompetent government, sure, but also by Troika who literally strong armed them into taking bailouts fully knowing they wouldn't be able to pay them thanks to extreme austerity measures, leading into an even deeper crisis. When Greeks elected anti-austerity parties who resisted, Troika cut off Greek banks from emergency funding, leading them into a collapse and offered an even more predatory deal afterwards. Even when looking at the more successful crises (Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Cyprus), it's debatable whether or not Troika did more bad than good with their imposed austerity.
Wall of text, blah blah - EU is still overall good, don't get me wrong, but it's idiotic to say that they're free from criticism and anyone who does so is just deep in the propaganda.
22% is awfully close to the 20% you can expect to answer a survey "wrong" to spite the person with the temerity to survey them
From what I notice in the Netherlands. The people who think the EU does not benefit them are mostly people that work (or own companies) in industries that the EU regulates harshly (think farmers here). Ofc these people think its not beneficial to be in the EU, their livelihoods are at risk because of it.
I do think the EU is basically necessary for the EU countries to thrive.
if the netherlands is anything like sweden, farming is likely heavily subsidised by the eu. that's the annoying part; there are valid criticisms of the union (inconsistency, inertia, advisors, lobbying) but anti-pollution regulations with appropriate compensation is not it.
The Dutch government has botched implementing these environmental reforms quite a bit in the past, which has caused right wing / anti enviromental parties to swoop in and claim the bigger environmental rules are the problem, instead of the way they were implemented.
Thereβs this one big βfarmerβs partyβ and a lot of farmers have bought into their lie of representing actual farmers, but the party was founded by lobbyists and their biggest donators are chemical companies who would benefit a ton from being allowed to pollute
I think EU didn't benefit my country on a lot of points. One big point though is the forces capitalism everywhere; like forcing to open energy selling to competition, leading to dismemberment of previously public sectors to the benefit of private company with absolutely 0 added value