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Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 week ago

“When I saw Columbia completely capitulate, and I saw this vocabulary of, well, we’re going to work behind the scenes because we’re not going to get targeted – that whole way of thinking pre-supposes that some universities will get targeted, and you don’t want to be one of those universities, and that’s just a losing strategy,” he said.

Stanley added: “You’ve got to just band together and say an attack on one university is an attack on all universities. And maybe you lose that fight, but you’re certainly going to lose this one if you give up before you fight.

1000%

[–] arankays@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"may become"

Dude it already is a fascist dictatorship. People are getting unalived and disappearing for their opinions.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Murdered and abducted, newspeak nobody.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Unalived" might be a euphemism that's only necessary on certain social media to avoid censorship nowadays, but people were using the term "disappearing" (especially as a transitive verb) during Chile's Pinochet regime, if not earlier.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Disappear" used in that way is not new. Unfortunately.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

especially as a calque of desaparecido

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Unalive and disappear don't change the meaning of the thought, and they circumvent ideological restrictions that intent to restrict thought. This is opposite the effect of newspeak.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a very bad sign.. this guy is a US citizen, right? If even he feels the need to flee, from the seclusion of the ivory tower ...

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in the same exact boat. US citizen, making my way out because it's way too dangerous. I can read the writing on the wall.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, I can't believe how common this is becoming. There was an article about this recently, https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/gold-card-residence-abroad/682103/ (archive https://archive.is/q3iCF )

Out of curiosity (and on the off-chance that it helps out a fellow USian) how are you getting out? What's the path you've picked, if you've gotten that far, or what options are you considering?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Work transfer. Contracts are signed, lawyers are lawyering, I'm just waiting and planning the logistics.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 5 points 1 week ago

Like an intra-corporate transfer to the Canadian office of your current US-based employer?

Also, welcome!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

They've been going after academics and students first. Standard fascist dictatorship stuff.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We actually should start working on a solution to house the massive amount of migrants that's will soon be arriving here.... No joke. And it wouldn't be bad for us but only if we plan accordingly and plan it to be sustainable and long lasting

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, Canada and other countries need to be anticipating large numbers of refugees from the USA. And it's just one more reason why Canada really needs to sort out its housing situation.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on the research I've done about migrating to Canada, this is already done. There is a whole process to get approved including a labor impact assessment. You can just show up to Canada and get a job and start using public resources without a ton of paperwork and approval process.

I guess if Canada has to start accepting refugees then that may be different.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When I immigrated to Canada the process was rather arduous, and the categories under which you could immigrate were quite restricted. It depends on your skills, your age, your finances, your family (if any) in Canada, which employment categories Canada is prioritizing, and so on. There's information here for anyone considering it:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html

And a questionnaire to find out whether you're eligible to apply to immigrate to Canada:

https://onlineservices-servicesenligne.cic.gc.ca/c2c/

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 3 points 1 week ago

Also, for Express Entry the age limit is 55. Not sure what PR pathways exist for those older.

Though, while not permanent, theoretically you can just keep renewing a work permit under NAFTA. There's no age limit to the permit, so as long as you're able to work (and you have a qualifying employer and meet other requirements) you should be able to do this to stay in Canada indefinitely.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 1 week ago

If you're a US (or Mexican) citizen you don't even need LMIA, you might be eligible under NAFTA.

But I work in tech, and when I did this, I found it quite challenging to find an employer who would be willing to do this. Usually the employer needs an immigration lawyer and has to be set up with IRCC (i.e. the Canadian gov't) to do this. An LMIA - if you need one - would be even more paperwork for them.

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

It is almost as if they have seen this movie and the several remakes before.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Anybody who can leave the Untied States at this point, should

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 week ago

I got so much shit from the Canadian reddit for saying that people are literally going to flee for their lives across the border.

That was back in November. Who's right now?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Humanities academics will do anything to avoid fieldwork.

[–] MasterReflection1916@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

When you know you are on the enemies list and they start rounding up the others at the top, it's time to leave

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s all fine or whatever. But fuck you U of T for finding the money for lifelong positions these people whereas U of T would have never created the same positions for Canadian scholars. Same thing happened back in the day of the Vietnam War and the Kent State shooting - all my profs when I did my undergrad were draft dodgers from Vietnam and/or left the US after they shot and killed students at Kent State. Now today we’re getting even more US ideology infiltrating our country because the US voted in a fascist.