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In perhaps his most disappointing policy announcement thus far, Carney has indicated he will scrap the Liberal's plan to increase the capital gains inclusion rate. This mildly progressive measure was directed squarely at the passive incomes of the wealthiest sliver of Canadians and would have served as a healthy revenue generator. Instead, it's destined for the scrapheap.

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 28 points 2 weeks ago

He's not Mr. Right...but he is Mr. Right Now.

[–] el_muerte@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've been saying for weeks now, thirty years ago this dude would've landed solidly Progressive Conservative.

I'm still gonna vote Liberal to keep PP out, but they ain't my preference.

[–] TheGoddessAnoia@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

You and me both. Carney is Progressive Conservative, whether that party still exists or not. And, yes, if I must, I must, although I've had it up to here with having to vote for a party I dislike just because the only other viable option is so much worse. There are days I shed a tear, even now, for Jack Layton: he was no more than mildly left, but, damn! I wish he'd had his chance!

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And where would Trudeau land? Green party or the "green" party is my bet.

[–] el_muerte@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Right, because buying a pipeline to ensure it will be completed, allowing for even more oil extraction, is definitely the sort of thing the Green party would do...

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Please please please people don't parrot brain-dead American takes that not voting for Carney is voting for PP. We are running a parliamentary election in a Westminster system. There is no single election, there are 338 elections. We don't elect a prime minister, we elect a parliament.

Think, and vote strategically.

While it is absolutely true that the blackmail holds in ridings where it's a competitive Conservative-Liberal race, it is a shit take in ridings where eg the race is between Conservatives and NDP (where Liberals would be the spoiler) or where the race is between the Liberals and the NDP, or the Bloc or the Greens (a Liberal minority dependent on the NDP/BQ/GP is actually a possible outcome that keeps PP out power and can moderate Carney's neoliberal tendencies).

So, basically if the conservatives have a chance to win your riding, vote whoever has the highest chance to keep them out. Otherwise, vote your conscience.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Vote! It's as easy as ABC.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Easy as do-re-mi, ABC, 1-2-3, baby you and me!

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

DON'T LET PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD

Vote red but keep the pressure on them, talk to your representatives and make your voices heard, because you know that the CPC won't care what you say, they never did.

First step is we elect a Liberal Government. Second step is we continue the fight and put pressure on them for proportional representation, de-americanizing our cloud infrastructures, gaining our independence and making our country stronger in the face of the world's instability.

We need to build, we need to make alliances, we need someone that has strong negotiation skills.

Plus, as others have said, if you don't have to vote Liberal because you're in a place where the Conservatives have no chance, it's ok to vote with your heart/morals etc.

[–] SaturdayMorning@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

My riding is a conservative stronghold, but I'm still going to vote for my local Liberal candidate. As soon as Election Canada received my local Liberal candidate's nomination application, I'm planning to scrape together some funds and donate to them.

[–] thatsmysandwich@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

exactly, no one say Carney is gonna be perfect. actually no matter who win, there will ALWAYS be issue. because no single policy will be pleasing to everyone.
but lets just say if PP win.. we have PROBLEMS. not just issues. and at this point, Carney is the BEST option.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's either a guy who's a mix of good and bad, or several others that are basically 90%+ all bad.

The question isn't why people shouldn't vote for Carney, but rather is there anybody else worth voting for? Has any of his opponents done anything beneficial for Canada in recent history?

[–] JoeDyrt@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Opinions! Just like asholes; everybody’s got one.

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Carney isn't a neoliberal.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

His first act as prime minister was to axe a capital gains tax increase.

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't make him neoliberal.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's certainly part of what makes him a neoliberal.

Let's have a look at his website, https://markcarney.ca/spend-less-invest-more

In recent years, the federal government has been spending too much.

A Mark Carney-led government’s fiscal policy will focus first on reining in wasteful and ineffective government spending, creating room for personal income tax cuts

Now is the time for a more efficient and effective government—one that delivers better results while spending responsibly. By streamlining operations and reducing waste

A Carney government will focus on maximising the outcomes achieved, while minimising the dollars spent. We will slow the growth of government spending, initially cap the size of the public service

a range of tax measures from Investment and Production Tax Credits to Accelerated Depreciation, that catalyse massive private investment in cutting-edge industries.

A Mark Carney-led government will balance the operating budget in three years

These all come straight out of a conservative campaign. The guy is neoliberal to the core. His great policy proposal is splitting the budget into two columns so he can (in my opinion) run austerity measures on social services while running a deficit to funnel public money into private hands via public private partnerships.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Problematic? Absolutely. He's a solid Progressive Conservative, in the mold of Joe Clark and Robert Stanfield. He's a banker, and sees continual financial growth as essential to society.

But he also knows that the way forward for our nation is to diversify our trading partners, so we can cut off the ones that don't help us.