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Liberal Party members have chosen former central banker Mark Carney to be their new leader and the next prime minister of Canada.

Carney secured enough votes in the first round of voting to win the job, party president Sachit Mehra announced.

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[–] Global_Liberty@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Good, but I won't sleep easily until the crypto MAGAist Pierre Poilievre is on the ash heap of history.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Hes into crypto?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

I too will love to see the knives out for PP once he loses the general election. He’s been such a sniveling Trunp toady no other party would support his party in a minority situation . All Carney has to do is prevent a conservative majority, my guess is that Carney has the potential to do even better than that.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Entirely expected, but still a relief. He is the most likely Liberal candidate to potentially take a win from the Cons or at least take away a majority from them.

[–] LittleTarsier@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Explains why Conservative attack ads have been so focused on Carney lately. They're scared!

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 hours ago

Extremely.

A lot of polls put the Cons ahead of the Liberals by a few points, but trailing if Carney was leader.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Reminder of the Liberal's record on proportional representation: "Liberals never wanted to “make every vote count.”… Electoral reform has become a bonbon offered at election. As far back as 1919, Liberals have campaigned on the promise of proportional representation"

Mark Carney's position on electoral reform: "open". However...

  1. He’s an economist, and the mathematics pairs quite nicely with the mathematics of electoral systems.
  2. His public persona is that he is intelligent. But when asked specifically about electoral reform and proportional representation, he says he’s uncertain and open to exploring options? Why would someone as smart as him be uncertain about ensuring every vote counts.
[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Means he's unfamiliar with the issue, or doesn't want to take a position lol

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Given the Liberal's failings on proportional representation, I tend to think it's the latter: he doesn't want to take a position

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

The liberals chose well!

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So we'll likely be heading into an election in June.

[–] IslandLife@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Too bad for Chrystia Freeland. I think she would have been a great PM. I watched her speak a few times, and she is well-spoken, smart, and has that little edge like she'd really destroy you if you forced her to.

I would have voted for either, though, and I'm happy for Mark Carney. He'll do a great job.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Politics is harsh. You have to have the personality to communicate effectively to the people. Chrystia just doesn't have that politician's personality. She isn't engaging at all.

[–] IslandLife@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Not nearly as bad as PP. Every time I hear the guy speak, it's like he'd rather be doing something else.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I think she's kinda like Harris in the US. She probably would have done a good job, but is too similar to (and tainted by) the person before. It's not worth the risk right now to choose her and lose to the cons.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's just not the time for her. I respect her deeply and thought she was great in the debate, and she did a great job last time Trump was in power.

I just think she couldn't win the next fight (the general election), and frankly I think a PM who Trump completely loathes would become his punching bag instead of his foil. Freeland could take a punch for sure -- don't mean to imply she's weak, but I think it wouldn't help.

I worry about Carney not being an outspoken and charismatic leader against Trump. Between Pollievre and Trump I think he's going to get dumped on, but I trust that he won't care because he'll be heads down enough on the technical sides of leadership it doesn't matter. We're already united, he can be a general and tactician.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

I’m actually not worried about Carney being thoughtful and considered while Trump is a loud mouth moronic idiot with no coherent plan. Let Trunp be who he’s gonna be and we’ll do our thing, separate from the US clownshow. I mean we’ll have to deal with them a bit but it’s like a toxic ex who you have to deal with because you have kids together but other then that, you lead a completely separate life.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Carney's win was not a surprise, but I think the margin that he won by was a surprise for many.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

I was amazed that no one else even got into the double digits.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

There was never a chance a woman would win as leader. The Liberals claim to be feminist but have never had a female in charge running the Liberal party.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't think that had much to do with it.

It should be no surprise that during an economic crisis, the candidate that successfully lead two central banks was selected.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Carney had nothing to do with Canada's economy, it was Jim Flaherty. Carney did major economic damage to England and England was worse off when Carney left. He plans to bring in more taxes if he can't increase current sales taxes plus increase income taxes.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Doing the same job here he had no influence and doing the same job there he ruined everything?

Maybe the UK is worse off because of Brexit, an event which had really only one outcome: worse trade policies, and using less efficient industries to compete against more efficient competitors.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Carney was against Brexit because it was bad economic policy for the UK to follow. They voted for it anyway twice and Carney helped them through it despite him not agreeing with it. The UK is still suffering now and is even talking about re-joining the EU.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah that's not really his fault at all, in his position I think it's expected that regardless of the political situation you see it through.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

He plans to bring in more taxes if he can't increase current sales taxes plus increase income taxes.

Not sure where you're getting this from but it goes directly against what he's been saying throughout his campaign.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

OMG a Minister of Finance and the Governor of the Bank of Canada had entirely different jobs to do, and different roles. They worked together but had different responsibilities.

He’s going to tax polluting industries. Instead of individuals. If the country elects the Liberals under Carney it’s a mandate to try new things. What those new things are, will be decided by a guy with an education in economics and experience as a policy maker as the Governor of two major global Banks.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Under Carney, everything you buy will get more expensive, plus you will have less money with higher taxes. Watch what happens to your money in 3 weeks on April 1st.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

Please no. He’s not Trump.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Freeland has polled fairly poorly against Poilievre and this is what everyone i know voted on - who can defeat him. Then there's some of the bad takes she made. She sounded austerity-ish, made some anti-woke statements which play right in the cons' hands.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention that she fiercely opposed electoral reform while Mark Carney gave a maybe.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The broad Canadian public is against woke policies. People want meritocracy, not identity. Read the public polling of the amount of people who support same sex marriage, it's going down. Look at the polling numbers of the public turning against the ideology of transgenderism.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please piss off to conservative lemmy’s. Or to the US. You have no coherent explanation of what is “woke” except for maybe it’s something undefined that you don’t personally like. You don’t speak for the broad Canadian public. Stop inflecting garbage US nonsense here. We’ve had gay marriage for more than 25 years and it’s never going away.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

When you go outside, talk with random strangers and ask for their take on woke and check if people out in public support gay marriage. Get people;s opinion's face to face that you don't know previously, the internet is not the real world.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Congrats. You’re my first block on lemmy.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

They're a transphobic loser, you won't miss much.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 9 points 8 hours ago

Um, dude? If you're going to pretend to be a Canadian, might be good if you studied up on Canada first.

If instead you're from one of the more disgustingly backward parts of rural Alberta, you might want to pay attention to what's been happening in the rest of the country for the last fifty years or so, with emphasis on the past couple of months.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

A quick look in Wikipedia shows in 2017 support for same sex marriage stood at 74% and in 2023 at 79%. Did it fall since then? To what?