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[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

After they elected Trump the first time, I knew that something was seriously wrong with that country and haven't returned since (and don't plan to).

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

The only reason I would go to the USA would be to piss on trump's grave.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 1 day ago

I don’t blame any non-Americans for avoiding our shit show. Just give us till the midterms to turn it around or at least bottle it better. Peaceful resistance is the only direction for now.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

There are many other countries worth visiting who contain a lot less people who are voting to walk over me to take my stuff.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I wont go to the US unless im going as a part of a military operation. Every single magat needs to be gone before the US can be redeemed.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

I'm Canadian, and I plan to never visit the USA again.

Ever.

There is no "...until" for me. The world without the US is easily big enough for me.

Two places I always wanted to see were New Orleans and Hawaii. The latter might end up breaking away, but New Orleans is probably off my list forever.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Last time I was in the US I was in Hawaii in January 2009. Obama was being inaugurated and because of time zones I had to get up early to watch it. Figured it was worth getting up for because it was kinda historical. So I was in the common area of the hostel where the TV was and there were four other people in the room, two women sitting up front, close to the TV, excited about the Obama being inaugurated. And there was a dude at the back of the room cursing and swearing because the stock market was dropping.

When the speech was done, we got to talking. The two women excited about the inauguration were Canadian. The guy at the back of the room angry at Obama because of the stock market (he's literally being inaugurated, he hadn't done anything yet) was American.

Just felt like there was something wrong with that country then and just didn't feel like going back there again. Then Trump came along and he did nothing but reinforce that feeling. Had some small hope they might be able to get past their greed, ignorance, and racism when Biden got in, but that just didn't happen.

Haven't gone there in 16 years, and sure as hell not going there now.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even though Trump has now paused tariffs on some products until April, we’re still not about to spend a nickel to prop up the U.S. economy when its president has pledged to destroy ours. We don’t want to be doing any of this, and we know so many Americans who also wish none of this were happening. But this is our reality now.

Yep, that's about it. But it's not just our economy Trump has vowed to destroy, it's our country.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

I’m American, and don’t blame you one bit.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was planning on visiting this year, but now my US travel plans are filed away alongside the Trans-Siberian Railway trip I should have done in the 00s. As much as there are places I’d like to visit, it’d be like going for a city-break to Munich in 1935.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Yep. My mom wants to see hanuama bay once more while she can still travel. #reasons. Remembrance.

We can't go while it's under Trump, so we wait until the US stops being weird or until the Kingdom tries to secede. She won't go before then.

The odds aren't good, but we're hoping she'll still be good to go then; and know she did.

Man, fuck Trump and his merry band of dirt-bags.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is gonna last longer then Trnup is in power. This is a real, tangible, long lasting shift in Canada-US relations. That’s not going to be fixed or restored whenever Trump is out of office. There will be a successor to this US isolationist ideology. The faster we decouple, disassociate and diversify from the US in every way, the better.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

When you consider that foreign relationships take many decades to forge, it's unlikely that things will go back to the way they were for at least 20+ years.

If it ever happens.

And by then, the rest of the world would have already adapted to a life without the States, and many will be better off for it.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Not just gone from government, but dead. And none of his spawn in any government positions.

[–] Lemmist@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m Canadian And Love Visiting The U.S.

What is it so interesting there?

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the article

As a Canadian, I’m reeling from the unraveling of a relationship I once believed to be unshakeable — a bond between our two nations that felt secure and enduring.

It's about the breakdown between two long time allies by one want-to-be US dictator working in the interested of Russia.

This is a historic moment. The US and Canada will never be the same again.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US and Canada will never be the same again

As a Canadian I think, if we can weather the storm without Cheetolini going full "annex" mode, we'll come out the other end better; more diversified and secure in trade relationships, and stronger on the world stage.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Canada is going to come out of this stronger thanks to Trump. We're working on improving our in-country trade right now. We're well liked in European circles and might end up in the EU. We're building trade with other countries. I'm feeling pretty positive about our future without the US.

If the US continues to descend into madness, we're going to be the country the USA brain drain ends up in. That will only help us.

Of course all of this depends on if the US decides to not go all Russia on us - which is going to wreck both countries.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Once you're on the wrong end of the stick, you understand that the US isn't a friend. Developing nations and non-white nations have known this for a long time. The biggest thing blinding the population are US media exports. US marketing is amazing, but now, it's getting harder and harder to market shit.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone from latam is refreshing seeing that everyone on the world is learning what the US actually is.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

I'm not from LATM, but same. I've been telling people for years that the US is not a net positive force in the world and people hold up whatever gadget they have and go "but they made this". Yeah, on the backs of a bunch of poor people that you'll never see nor care about, but because they're not white, it doesn't matter to you.

[–] Mildcoffer 1 points 2 days ago

I think no country is someone's friend ... Everyone is there just for the gains

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm honestly too fucking scared to as a foreigner

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A German tourist took their tatoo pen/equipment on a trip to US. They were accused of trying to work illegally and jailed until the time of their prebooked return trip home.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a programmer and i take my laptop everywhere... i'd be fucked!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

First, "Unlock your laptop, or straight to jail". Next, Emacs installed? Obviously straight to jail. Notepad++? Believe it or not, jail.

[–] Ashwag@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I was planning a trip to PA and Las Vegas in 2025.

Now those have been changed to France and Amsterdam. It'll cost me much more, however I'm not going to America for the foreseeable future.

[–] WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol 4 points 2 days ago

Ok cool. Thanks for letting us know.

[–] Aconite@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Cancelled plans to attend a conference and visit family. Never again.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Yup, I cancelled two conference trips because of that jackass.

I am glad to have visited when I could, but I don't see myself ever travelling to the US again.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I am still waiting for all the fuss after 9/11 to die down, haven't been there since before that.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Genocide wasn’t enough apparently

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Canada fairly shamefully threw Mexico under the bus for cartels recently justifying an unjustifiable war on Mexico as a cowardly response to the unjustified war on Canada. Of course, no diplomatic contacts/coordination to Mexico from Canada have been mentioned.

There are plenty of places warmer/souther of Florida at this time of year. Mexico one of them you could consider to apologize to country for our cowardice. Later in the year, Canada is very beautiful.

[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

okay, 1 Canadian less 🤔

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

(not canadian) i’m 100% in the same boat… i have commitments to some international events throat i have to fulfil, but im pulling any support from “international” things in the US after they’re done

i can’t in good conscience come and spend money in that economy, and i certainly can’t support events that draw other people into doing the same - especially when a lot of it is US-centrist-reinforcing the idea of what “international” is by providing only token nods to other cultures

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are people supposed to care if you visit America or if you don't visit America?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We collectively would prefer if you did not support their economy.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 days ago

If you don't want to support the American economy, do not use YouTube, do not use Netflix, do not use Microsoft Windows, do not use Mac or iPad, do not use Android, Apple, or Google, do not go to movie theatre, do not use streaming services, do not own a computer, do not use any transportation vehicle because a few parts are made in America, do not watch TV, do not buy music, do not play or buy video games, do not buy most clothes, do not buy some food, do not buy some home appliances.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You realize our election maps are public right? You can tell down to the county what percentage of voters are trumptards. Cut off funds to the traitors? Absolutely. But for deep blue Seattle?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

spending money in the USA is like buying american products: supporting the country economy supports the government. there is no way to travel to the US and keep your money from ending up supporting trump right now

the most impact foreigners can have is to vote with our wallet - something americans often tell us to do - and simply go elsewhere until the right people feel enough economic pain to push the right buttons

[–] sunfur82@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I wasn't comfortable going to the US ever since Trump got elected the first time. This is just another reason to never visit that place again. Would rather vacation somewhere in Canada, or if there's a great travel deal, visit Europe.