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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These are the same dipshits who think that "asylum seekers" are literally people from insane asylums.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

I genuinely didn't realize that was the reason they said they were coming from insane asylums.

Like, I legitimately didn't even consider the possibility because it was just that stupid. I'm simultaneously kicking myself for not figuring it out, but also glad my brain isn't stupid enough to quickly make the same connection they did.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

lol: 'biden spent less on medical research for transgender care during 4 years than trump spends on hookers in a year. news at 11.'

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

When idiots speak - bigger idiots listen intently.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 117 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Fake News losers at CNN immediately tried to fact check it, but President Trump was right (as usual).

Sounds very official and professional. Everyone at the white house is required to talk like Trump now?

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 27 points 3 days ago

They probably have a Trump AI for this sort of thing.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

eventhough cnn shills for trump in some form.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Transgender.... Animal Experiments? What the fuck are you even talking about?

Edit: These are just experiments showing if changes in hormones effect asthma and reactions to the HIV Vaccine, this is a clear case of "I'm counting on you to get mad and not read the article"

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 19 points 3 days ago

Trump got mad that people tried to fact check his claim that Biden spent millions on turning the mice trans. Then the Whitehouse officially released this at a rebuttal of the fact checks.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Every day I'm just wondering if all this is even reality. I think this is The Bad Place 🤔

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

actually you live in a video game, you just don't know it yet

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no, Rick, why did you tell me that?

😭

gives you the ability to observe yourself from the outside.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Naw, too much hope for that

well, we created a system of social cohesion and coordination so strongly based on obedience to authority and staying in your lane that the authority doesn't actually have to make sense or serve us for us to obey.

in fact, they don't even need to acknowledge material reality. they can live completely, entirely, in their delusional ketamine fueled fantasy worlds, and we will still be killed for disobedience, no matter how mad and irrational their commands get. such a shame there's no alternative.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I find it hard to believe that even the most ardent Trump supporters don't cringe at seeing something like this posted on the official website of the whitehouse.

Even if someone (somehow) doesn't know that human drugs and treatments are tested on mice (or other animals) before being tested on humans, they must at least feel some kind of shame/embarassment/humiliation at seeing a headline so petty and childish right under the whitehouse logo.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

they do feel some sort of shame, by remaining silent on it. then again i dont think conservatives can self-reflect.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

They do feel shame. A lot of their issues come from inferiority complex and their way of dealing with it is by trying to bring everybody else down to their level.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

transGENIC - meaning they were able to modify cells in mice to more resemble human to be able to develop new medications that were difficult to develop, but I guess anything that has word "trans" is woke. The transportation secretary should be on a lookout.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm kind of torn on this one. I've seen the "transgenic" explanation in several other places, and as I normally do, my initial reaction was "Ha ha, stupid Trump." (And also a deep underlying sadness that doesn't ever really go away)

But I clicked the link on this post. They listed the grants referenced in their $8 million total. One did mention transgenic mice, though they may all use transgenic mice and not specifically mention it. But if you click through to the grant proposals (which I assume DOGE did not write), every entry does indeed involve research on the effects of gender-affirming medication, even the one that mentions transgenic mice. To be clear, the other claim from media reports is also true - that these are grants for cancer and HIV research. But specifically, for things like the interaction between HIV vaccines and gender affirming meds.

To make my position clear, I support these studies. I think it's important to study how asthma and cancer medications may affect the trans population differently than those not on gender-affirming meds. And you never know what additional discoveries will be made along the way. But I think that the response that MAGA got confused about transgender vs transgenic is disingenuous at best, if the information from this link is true (who knows if the 8 mill is the full contract or remaining values, etc).

I think diversity, equity, and inclusion are exactly what we need, and historically, a lot of harm has been caused by treating white male as default in medical studies. It is a truly terrible thing that they are canceling studies like these. But I think we need to recognize that when they say things like, Biden spent 8 million dollars trying to make mice transgender, what we're dealing with is bait. They want us fighting over whether or not we made mice transgender. The point here is that this is yet another example of this Federal government usurping the power of the purse without being checked. They will always try to use small lies to hide the Big Lie.

[–] TacoEvent@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Thanks for sharing this thought. I had the same feelings and was disappointed to see that many of us are falling into the same headline clickbait trap that we accuse the other side of. Thankfully, you're getting plenty of upvotes.

Yes, the word transgenic was used in the description of the one of the funded studies. However that same cited study is intentionally attempting to study the effects of androgen treatment on reproductive health for the benefit of transgender individuals.

I do not condone this ridiculous writing from an official Whitehouse press release. I also fully approve of every single study listed. But the "haha they're dumb" rhetoric is not helpful. What's helpful is encouraging people to demand sources, think critically, and hold authority figures accountable when they lie.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

... transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens ... are necessary and/or sufficient for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters

They used the transgenic mice to test if hrt works. And the others have nothing to do with transgenic mice, most are explicitly about hrt and one is testing if asthma differences in sex is actually caused by hormones.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thanks for the hint. Also CNN added context to their article.

The morning after Trump’s speech, the White House provided a list of $8.3 million in federal grants to health studies that involve mice receiving treatments that can be used in gender-affirming health care. The White House list made clear what Trump, in the speech, did not: The studies were meant to figure out how these treatments might affect the health of humans who take them, not for the purpose of making mice transgender.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

More than meets the eye!

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[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can we take the time to acknowledge that the phrase “fake news losers at cnn” was used in an official executive white house release? This is on par with the release they put out a couple weeks ago that spelled “executive” as ecexutive” 🥴🤡 America is cooked.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

spelling is not really trumps strongsuit, nor it is followers, thats where the "weave" comes into play.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I saw that, and knew it was going to be a wild ride.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I knew it was going to be a wild ride 9 years ago the first time the democrats moved mountains to sabotage sanders at every turn in an effort to prevent any administration that would resemble FDR from gaining power effectively handing trump the win which was their preference to moving even a millimeter to the left on policy. I mean instead of listening to the working class this time they instead decided to move further right and court conservatives with endorsements from the cheng family, george bush and others. Neo Liberalism has pushed class dictatorship so far down our throats and ultimately led to this full on fascist decline we are in. It is obvious to anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex that the system will not allow us to remedy it through the mechanisms of the system and the only option we now have is a revolution and class warfare which has been waged against us relentlessly for the last 5-6 decades.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Researchers tested drug cross interactions. On mice. The most common subjects in lab tests.

Take a grain of truth. Twist it. It is the core idea behind every fascist propaganda machine.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

there's not even a grain of truth here; they thought he word 'transgenic' meant remotely the same thing as 'transgender'. or thought nobody would check.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Also, take the opportunity to also attack freedom of the press, dehumanize trans people, and delegitimize scientific research and healthcare.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Non-human animals literally can't have gender to us as it is a social construct for humans.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

That’s why leftists say it’s the same as biological sex

It serves no other purpose

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Ozzy@lemmy.news 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

White House is now a branch of newsmax

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah, newsmax has better editorial standards.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You’re actually right. Newsmax is still beholden to the law and has been taken to task over their bullshit.

The troubling thing is that this is Trump signaling the right wing media that it’s ok to go even harder.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Can someone check my math? I’m estimating Trumps first term tax cuts saved the top 1% at least $100b durning his first term. Trump is complaining about less than $9m being spent here. $9m is 0.009% of $100b. Did I get that all right?

[–] LinPing1976@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The experiment wasn't even for transgender animals. It was for transgenic which is an entirely different thing.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

The Whitehouse was trying to make catgirls

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But you aren’t a conservative. If you ever argued with one about this it will boil down to: taxes are theft, the rich are entitled to those tax cuts.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but of course; the poor are not.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only right they understand is might. Like a pinata it only trickles down after beating it with a stick.

I would argue they don't understand it, they just need to respond to it. they would be better at war if they did. they are beyond 'understanding'.

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

They're not turning mice 'trans'; they're turning science into a circus for political clowns.

🐱🐱

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is going to seem unrelated, but I wish my fellow countrymen didn't have a virtually unlimited appetite for finding out.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Something bad must be happening that has nothing to do with transgender animals.

[–] m3t00@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

yes i clicked articles. headline is the article. how typical.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Indubitably.

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