No. Unless Russia's economy crumbles in the next 1-2 years, then the war is lost for Ukraine. The Americans have dug themselves into a very deep hole. The Americans had bet everything on the chance that Russia would face defeat in 2022 or 2023. Now that it hasn't worked out, the Americans have no choice but to dump the problem onto other countries.

Will more economic sanctions on Russia and more weapons for Ukraine change anything? They have tried that for 3 years now and nothing changed. The media and the politicians have tricked many people into believing in Zelensky. He's a Saint in english-speaking nations. Ukraine can do no wrong. Yet support for Ukraine is lukewarm among the population. I held the Russian flag at one of Christchurch's busiest intersections 2 weeks ago. Hundreds of people saw the flag, but only 2 people made a comment disagreeing with me. I actually got more friendly toots than anything. People are tired of hearing about the war in Ukraine. Russia hasn't done anything to New Zealand and this war problem isn't ours to fix.

[–] onirakkiss@ioc.exchange 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@passwordforgetter @Viper_NZ

Do you really think this is not your business? People are dying because a fascist leader of a super power country is invading the small neighbor? And the other fascist leader of the other super power country is helping destroying the small country and Europe, Africa and Asia and the world economy?
Are you also a fascist?

[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 1 points 16 hours ago

Do you really think this is not your business? People are dying because a fascist leader of a super power country is invading the small neighbor? And the other fascist leader of the other super power country is helping destroying the small country and Europe, Africa and Asia and the world economy? Are you also a fascist?

@onirakkiss@ioc.exchange Calling Russia a fascist country is wrong. It's not a case of being inaccurate, it's completely wrong.

Yeah, that sounds about right. I guess you also think the Chinese would do a better job of running NZ? Or that we should fight alone if they try and invade?

@Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz Nah I don't think China is interested in absorbing New Zealand into its global empire. Would they want to pay everyone's pension or unemployment benefits? It'd be a disaster. China doesn't have the skill or knowledge on how NZ society works.

How many people in Christchurch even know what a Russian flag looks like?

@BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz Quite a lot of people, in fact. How many tricolour flags are there with white-blue-red? Maybe the flag of the Netherlands, which goes red-white-blue? The only other similarity is the Serbian flag, which is the Russian flag but upside-down. Other flags such as the French flag are vertical bars of colour, which is obviously quite different. Don't ask me how so many people young and old know the Russian flag, but they know it from somewhere. Maybe they read books or played Call Of Duty or War Thunder.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

They're not brave enough to outright say it, but they are absolutely a pro Russia fascist.

I'd love to know why.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I held the Russian flag at one of Christchurch's busiest intersections

Yeah, that sounds about right. I guess you also think the Chinese would do a better job of running NZ? Or that we should fight alone if they try and invade?

Also, of course this was Christchurch.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago

How many people in Christchurch even know what a Russian flag looks like?

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 4 points 4 days ago

The exchanges are truly a [new?] low.

All the way down to "Why don't you wear a suit? It's disrespectful" from the guy in the ill fitting siut

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This debacle has also shown how fundamentally flawed our strategy of hoping America or Australia will help us, should a foreign power come sniffing around in our waters really is.

The US armed forces built fortifications both during ww2, and earlier during the Russian scare, here in NZ, I very much doubt they'd do that today.

Both them and Australia are today increasingly transactional in their interactions with the outside world, and the US in particular will likely want something in return for their help.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago

You are the one with your nose up the USA's back end.

We got nothing the USA needs or wants. Certainly nothing Canada doesn't have. The USA doesn't care about us at all. We can't rely on them so we best make make friends with as many people as possible, maybe one of them will feel sorry enough to help us when the USA decides it wants the south island as a vacation destination for Elon or Zuck or Theil.