I believe he was the shooter, and that he should be found not guilty.
this post was submitted on 15 Feb 2025
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Unlikely, but there's always jury nullification. Which I just realized would be recorded as a "not guilty" verdict, though the implication is "he did it, but we think it's OK"
iirc jury nullification doesn't always stick because they can declare a mistrial if it seems fishy.
Call me jaded but I am not predisposed to take the NYPD at their word.
People seem to forget about the innocent until proven guilty part, the raw amount of perjury with the theater surrounding this person is mind-numbing. If he makes it out of this he will be come a billionaire out of defamation alone, almost all mainstream news sources treated his guilt as a foregone conclusion with barely an "allegedly" in sight.
Not guilty regardless.
Likely him IMO. Very unlikely that they'll be able to go through a highly-publicized trial with broad support for him and pin the wrong guy, so my general attitude is "let's see what happens"
That’s exactly how I feel.
I believe he deserves a presumption of innocence as is his constitutional and human right.
Whoever it was is a hero
It’s really funny how people started off saying as a joke it wasn’t him/eyebrows look different, as a sort of protest against his arrest.
And then people started to take the jokes seriously, and now we have a massive conspiracy theory that like a third of people on lemmy believe it isn’t him, lol.
The first pic of the person actually at the scene of the crime looks significantly less like Mangione than the other ones. I don't believe it's a coincidence they stopped showing those once they had their sights set on a suspect. I don't think it was a joke that people were saying that very first picture looked different.
No, but it doesn't really matter. The government has selected its scapegoat. I just hope that the jurors understand what jury nullification is before they go in. Gawd knows the courts don't want anyone funding out.
I don't have an opinion on if he was the shooter. I do have the opinion that the shooter is an American hero though.
I don't have any reason not to?
That's not how it works though
He's just a dude, not a government judicial system
How does "it" work, exactly? Should I work under the assumption that everyone who is accused of a crime is innocent?
Why lie about it? You really think with the infinite resources available to the gov that they couldn't figure out who shot a CEO on a busy NYC street in broad daylight?
You really think with the infinite resources available to the gov that they couldn’t figure out who shot a CEO on a busy NYC street in broad daylight?
You really think that the infinite (human) resources in the gov care about putting the effort to find the actual shooter, when they can just manipulate all media and make the scapegoat feel real?
Again, I ask:
Why lie about it?
When you have a hammer in hand, everything looks like a nail.
When selling a lie is the skill an org has put the most XP in, that's what they seek to do first.
Also, I see some group of competitors finding out that the guy had some plan to get on top and decided to off him first.
When you have a hammer in hand, everything looks like a nail.
I don't think you understand this analogy. There is a nail. You're suggesting they're driving the nail into the wrong board on purpose for no reason.
Let's go by: Because they didn't learn to use a screw driver properly, they went with the hammer.
Also, alternatively, if the "competitor's job" assumption is correct, then of course they want to keep the actual actors out of the investigation and away from media.
Anything is possible
I haven't seen enough of the evidence to know. I feel like everyone in power has decided he's guilty, but there hasn't been a trial. I don't think it's wrong for people to have their opinions on a personal level about his guilt, but I am not willing to at this point. Honestly I was leaning towards guilty until I saw how the cops were parading him around. I don't trust that behavior.
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