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Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won't break accidentally? The set up doesn't have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don't want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Linux mint is a good, "click first" distro that won't break without root + will be easy for her to use. For something with a more modern desktop and more recent updates, Bazzite is really good at just working and (in my experience) has never broken

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Bazzite might be what i go for the more i look at it. Thanks

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

I have tried most known distros but not bazzite, yet. might be the next one on my distrohop journey since everyone recommends it. hope it works better than fedora kde, it does not get along with my hardware AT ALL

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

For me, Mint borked the network after an update. I never got to figure what was wrong - the local network worked, the Internet connection was there and other devices worked through the same router, remote IPs were unreachable so it's not a DNS problem, etc.

But I might have had an edge case.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

I've set up Linux mint for my sister in law and didn't hear from her the whole two years she was in college. But nowadays we have immutable distros. They're fantastic for a set it and forget it kinda thing. They're solid for those who don't want things to break.

[–] kittenroar 11 points 1 month ago

An immutable distro would be a good choice. They are distros designed to be more resilient against failure. For a gamer, bazzite is a solid choice; otherwise, silverblue.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mint.

I have my mum (67) and my partner using it.

Libre office and Firefox cover 99.9% of all the things mum actually does.

My partner uses blender, krita and audacity also.

Auto updates... Almost no tech support.

[–] Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Linux mint makes sense. Auto updates and its hastle free for non techy person like me.

Even if I'm doing something crazy , chatgpt to the rescue.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Since less techy people tend to use more the mouse/touchpad anyways, I would pick a hard-to-mess-with desktop environment like Cinnamon or Gnome. With KDE, XFCE and such you can screw panels really easily if you don't know what you're doing.
Slap Debian under it and there you go

[–] lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any immutable distro would do I guess

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

That is, if you have experience running immutable distros yourself and are able to serve as a tech support for them should they ever need it.

A lot is different under the hood, and general Linux knowledge doesn't always help.

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I've got my wife and 5 year old on slackware. They wouldn't know how to screw it up if they wanted to!

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aurora or Bluefin would be great, general purpose distros. They're based on Fedora Kinoite and Silverblue, respectively, so you get that atomic unbreakability with the addition of some handy software and easy, optional scripts via ujust.

I have Bazzite on a laptop specifically for this reason, so if I ever kick the bucket early, they will have a reliable and portable computer.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Bazzite does seem like a good option, thanks.

[–] Gayhitler@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does she want this?

If so then just set her up exactly what you have so you can easily help when there’s a problem.

If not then get her the computer she actually wants.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a no money and cant run windows 11 situation.

[–] Gayhitler@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Consider 0patch before you give up on windows. They do good work and it’s real affordable.

No matter what you do, in this circumstance it’s worth keeping that windows partition around.

I do think whatever you use is the right choice though.

E: I looked up the 0patch pricing and you get a year of patches for a bunch of eol versions of windows like 7 and 10 for $25 a year. It’s a good deal I think for people who don’t want to or can’t upgrade to 11, and they beat Microsoft to a bunch of zero day exploits.

I know you said it’s a no money kind of situation but I really think when ten is still a possibility theres two bucks and some change a month in the budget.

[–] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I switched from ubuntu to debian when 12 was released and it's been fine. Only thing i was worried about was running WoW via lutris but had no issues.

So when my SO windows pc died we bought some newish parts and i installed debian on it as well. Also installed chrome since that's her browser of choice. She's still getting used to gnome, but all she needs is browser, WoW, and libreoffice, which is close enough that it hasnt been an issue. She doesn't even know how to update the system.

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you're not going to give her sudo access then I'd say it'll be really hard maybe even impossible to screw up. Also maybe setup a cron job that'll do auto updates and if needed add in a check to make sure it isn't uninstalling anything. Also how about immutable distro.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Any of the ostree variants of Fedora, be they Fedora Official or downstream ones like the Universal Blue family

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Use btrfs snapshots. Bring the PC to a state that you like, make a snapshot. Then on shutdown set the profile to reload to the specific snapshot.

Any issues? Just restart. Might take a minute, but it ensures the exact same environment every time.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would like to avoid BTRFS at all costs if possible. But snapshots are definitely part of my plan.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

So be it. I've been using btrfs for a long time now without any real issues. No idea why everyone's dick gets so hard whenever you mention it.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Grub-btrfs is what broke my setup. Btrfs is what broke my backup. This was last week. Come again with btrfs if it gets stable.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Debian is good at being basic, generic, stable AND has an automatic security-update-in-the-background feature

The whole amount of instruction to give to Dear SO is just to reboot the machine if it ever seems to misbehave

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

"Hello IT have you tried turning it on and off again?"

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Or Aurora/Kinoite, for a more familiar experience

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought this was a request for Stack Overflow proof.

Then figured that was 'proof from pasting random crap from SO".

Then figured it's the same thing.


Any distro will be suitable, create yourself as the first user when installing (which will probably be added to the wheel/sudoers group or whatever) then create a new 'standard' user.

Most distribution defaults should be adequate.

For added safety, choose one that is immutable like, for example, Fedora atomic.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thinly-veiled bazzite shill thread

[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 4 points 1 month ago

Why don't you try to be useful instead? Is there anything wrong with Bazzite? Are there other distros that are better suited for what OP needs?

Honestly I'm not expecting much from ya. Though, I hope you can surprise me.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I honestly had never heard of it till I posted this. To be fair there are a billion linux distros at this point.

I honestly was expecting everyone to say mint.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

till

Plough? Cash-drawer?

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Fedora Silverblue.

Or really any immutable OS; they would have to go way out of their way to even edit system files, much less break the system. I just recommend Silverblue because gnome is really hard for an inexperienced user to break.

[–] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Zorin is a good shout, but it's definitely not "trending", it's been a staple recommendation for over 5 years now.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Semi-serious suggestion: Guix or NixOS. They're not break-safe per se, but if they do break something, you can use the OS' previous generations to go back to an operational state. Just... don't let them use the commands that delete older generations.

(Semi-serious because they're both not exactly mainstream and not eactly conventional in their setup.)

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yep, NixOS as a base + some Flatpak store for installing apps. In fact, use impermanence to just drop all OS state apart from logs, network settings and flatpaks. That way, "turn it off and then on again" will almost always work to fix the OS.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

OpenSUSE MicroOS

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've had my wife on Pop for 3-4 months now but she performed some update in the Pop Shop this week that totally borked the bootloader. I was not able to repair or even get it to see her hard drive.

I was able to mount the drive using the Pop live USB and backup her data. I moved her over to Bazzite, which is what I use.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have PCs here running pop updated the same way, no issues. Are you sure it wasn't a hardware problem?

[–] statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

I should probably clarify that I think my wife did something wrong and not Pop. I ran it smoothly for months before moving to Bazzite on my item machine. She knows enough to be dangerous and may have changed something without knowing what it did.

An atomic system would be more SO proof for me.

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