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🚨BREAKING: Google will soon install an app called #AndroidSystemSafetyCore

They say it's a "safety measure" to protect your #privacy, but in fact it's client-side scanning.

Yet, we all know that client-side scanning is bad: https://tuta.com/blog/eu-client-side-scanning

Deinstall the app on your #Android: System -> Apps

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[–] giuseppegv@mastodon.uno 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social uninstalled. Danke.

@Tutanota@mastodon.social done, thank you!

[–] chrisdoestech@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social thank you.

I've checked my phone and it's not installed. Maybe because I don't have a google account on the phone and have gutter the google apps with adb.

I will have to check my family's phones because they are less willing to give up google services

[–] rejzor@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Is there even any other function to the app that's not scanning of photos on user's phone?

[–] Beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social #DismantleGoogle #BoycottGoogle. Get #Linux open source.

[–] Pandora@eldritch.cafe 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Deleted, was already installed, thanks.

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Can confirm this was on my Samsung S24 this morning

[–] Pandora@eldritch.cafe 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Deleted, was already installed on my #FairPhone 5, thanks.

[–] Tidbit@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social This feature doesn't actually send any data to Google unless the user chooses to report findings as spam. See

While I think it's generally fair to criticize corporations for their spying practices, I'm not sure what Tuta deems problematic in this case?

[–] oldgeek@masto.yttrx.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social I uninstalled it earlier today. Probably need to check every time there is an Android update.

[–] ellesmith@kzoo.to 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social it was on my phone. Deleted it.

[–] inwis@mastodon.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social
They have already. Just removed it. I don't think there's any alternative os for the S25 Ultra?

[–] Uwe_M@rheinneckar.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

Wo und wie finde ich das?

πŸ₯΄ Auf deutsch und fΓΌr Doofe (wie mich) wΓ€re schΓΆn.

[–] neil_h@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

@Tutanota already found it on my phone. And deleted it.

My next phone will be with #murena e/OS.

[–] cajo@metalhead.club 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

Thanks for this, it was already installed in my S21.. uninstalled.

Monitoring now for reinstalls.

[–] frankie@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

Quoting a Mastodon post by GrapheneOS:
"The app doesn't provide client-side scanning used to report things to Google or anyone else. It provides on-device machine learning models usable by applications to classify content as being spam, scams, malware, etc. This allows apps to check content locally without sharing it with a service and mark it with warnings for users."

#AndroidSystemSafetyCore #Android #Privacy #GrapheneOS

[–] pockets@beige.party 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Already uninstalled.

Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of alternative OS offerings for my Teracube 2e (current primary) or my Oneplus Six (first backup).

At least nothing that I've been able to find with a tutorial simplified enough for a nigh-layperson like myself.

And I can't afford a new phone right now.

[–] tokensane@mastodon.me.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Google's official statement about #AndroidSystemSafetyCore is here: .

TL;DR: Yes, it does client-side scanning for nudity, but it only notifies the user. It does not (according to Google) notify anyone else. This is unlike the Apple thing, which scanned for CSAM in particular and then sent anything it identified to the government.

Of course Google might be lying, but that's always the risk of a closed OS. This changes nothing.

[–] GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social See .

[–] viralobscurity@mstdn.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social I spoke with family and its been found on 3 Samsung galaxy phones so far

All easy to remove though

[–] fp75sx@mastodon.uno 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social oppure passate a #fairphone con #eos

[–] wikinaut@berlin.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Fuck!

@Tutanota@mastodon.social A few days ago, a notification appeared that this application had been installed on my cell phone. As a result of this warning, I'm going to uninstall it.

[–] mndflayr@metalhead.club 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

Is there some info on how this service works and what it does exactly?

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Anyone know what versions of Android are effected by this and is this an EU only problem or does this effect Android phones worldwide?

[–] jesterchen@social.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Before you do you might wanna read this statement:

And if you still want to remove this feature, I suggest to switch to grapheneOS completely. You'll never know when it'll be back.

@Tutanota@mastodon.social : it was already installed on my Google Pixel 6 Pro - without anybody asking whether I agree with this shit.

Just uninstalled it.

#CameraInYourBathroom #ClientSideScanning #AndroidSystemSafetyCore #CSS #ChatControl #Privacy #BigBrother #BigTechIsEvil #GoogleIsEvil #WhatAreTheySmoking

[–] mdalves@mastodon.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Removed. Thanks.

[–] truls46@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Glad I am now running GrapheneOS

[–] Tutanota@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@truls46@mastodon.social Way better choice!

[–] GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@truls46@mastodon.social See .

[–] multi_flexi@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social they already did it to my LineageOS with GApps

[–] TotalSonic@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social - exactly why I always flash a de-googled rom or alternative OS onto any mobile device I use. You gain better battery life and as close as possible to an ad free experience as well. Calyx, Graphene, crDroid, /e/, iode, Lineage, Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish, Mobian, Droidian, Postmarket, etc - all can work towards this.

[–] silentjuno@tuiter.rocks 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Done! πŸ‘

[–] heash_0831@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I dont have this installed on my system so far. I will still be on the look out
Im currently carrier locked but desperately want to switch to GrapheneOS. Its user uninstallable for now but we should have the package name saved so if it does become a system it can be nulled of via adb

[–] huntingdon@mstdn.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

Giggle and "privacy safety measures" is a contradiction in terms.

[–] manielfo@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social listo, sacada de mΓ­ Android!!!!

[–] allanon@mastodon.uno 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social done and thanks for sharing, google is dangerous

[–] thedubster@ohai.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Do you guys know which Android versions are affected?

[–] petunientopf@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social danke. War drauf und ist nun deinstalliert

[–] philpetree@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Android by its very nature and design is a data harvesting mechanism.

[–] greencasio@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Just uninstalled it for my device and my partner. #bigtech #google #privacy #security

[–] ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Nothing new. In the closed Source World you have to trust your Key to Companies. Only Open Source and with Math, you have the Right to check and proof.
I do not trust, Google, Microsoft, Apple.. without Math or open Source... Compilers and or Hardware. I know we have no Choice cause sublayer complexity. However i would love to have Democracy and self sustainable informed individual Humans, Computers or Neural Networks. Like Perfect Markets or Internet, Worlds or Individuals...

[–] martinrust@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Found it on my #Fairphone3 too 😐 #Fairphone

[–] fredallas@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social Thanks for letting us know πŸ‘πŸ» I got rid of the app as soon as I read this post.

[–] them@social.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Uninstall #AndroidSystemSafetyCore and also rate it with just 1 star on play store.

[–] dockwalk@mastodon.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social

what other google spy crap should i uninstall ?

@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Should we expect to see Android System Safety Core in AOSP (Android Open Source Project aka 'stock Android')?

@Tutanota@mastodon.social done. Also doing this on wife's phone and recommending to friends and fam.

[–] jack@mastodon.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota@mastodon.social ...or might already have done so:

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