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[–] BalderSion@real.lemmy.fan 122 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On Feb. 15, 2003, millions of people marched in over 600 cities against the plans of U.S. President George W. Bush to invade Iraq.

First time?

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 88 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The revolution will not be televised

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The largest protests in the history of the world were in opposition to the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq still happened.

Protesting sends a message but it isn't enough.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago

If protests aren't enough to sway a democratic system, then the democratic system is broken and resistance becomes mandatory. To quote what the german constitution established after Hitler to prevent exactly what's currently happening again in the US:

Article 20 [Constitutional principles - Right of resistance]

[...]

(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.

I do not know if there's something akin to this in the US constitution (I know your culture very much thinks there is every time it's about guns though). But even if it isn't, fuck it. The system is evidently broken, do what's necessary to regain the power of the people. Do it the French way if you must.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

As much as I hate riots, I mean, yeah?

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Anyone who knows anything about history has seen this story before

[–] Ketchup@reddthat.com 36 points 1 month ago

By all means, protest. Push these bad actors. Stick up for democracy! But Is anyone else mildly anxious that JD Vance’s hero, Curtis Yarvin, suggested in 2022, that all Trump needs to do is declare a state of emergency to extend executive immunity to prosecution, and to do it early on? So far, project 2025 combined with the manifestos of Dark Gothic Tech Bros are aligned.

“If the institutions deny the President the Constitutional position he has legally won in the election, the voters will have to act directly. Trump will call his people into the streets—not at the end of his term, when he is most powerless; at the start, when he is most powerful. No one wants to see this nuclear option happen. Preparing for it and demonstrating the capacity to execute it will prevent it from having to happen.”

Apr. 7, 2022 Curtis Yarvin

[–] Commiunism 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A couple weeks ago Trump stated the following: “and he (Musk) knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide it was pretty good”.

No mainstream news source reported on it despite the fact that it's a borderline confession, and the fact that back in 2020 they gave an insane amount of attention and signal boosting to election fraud claims that had 0 evidence.

Media is on the side of the money, they're not a friend.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 month ago

And here are some hard numbers on the Republicans suppressing enough Harris votes to cost America the democratic outcome

https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

Elon and the felon: "Does their protesting stop what we're doing in any way? No? Then why would I care?"

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really?! The worlds largest propaganda machine is playing tricks on us?!1!

Facebook knows who is sensitive to this kind of news, they know who would join a protest and who not. And they can decide to whom to show which news. How many people use Facebook & co. as their main source of information? Or main medium to organize?

[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Meta has the Meta(data)

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell me how many people first.

A handful of people in every state is not impressive.

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[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

Protests alone will not stop the nazis. They also didn't in Germany ~90 years ago. I hooe people get that and organize. Fast.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 month ago

Feb 5* also thank you for this post I am glad it is getting reach.

On February 5 (when this was happening) there was an infuriating number of posts saying “why aren’t pro-Palestine protesting?”

And then I’d get downvotes for pointing out people, in fact, protesting.

So many people with their eyes intentionally closed… felt so hopeless.

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Great work to everyone who stands up to hatred and fascism! ❤️

I watched some of the protests when they were live on YouTube. The fact there was apparently so little media coverage of people protesting against a fascist racist who appointed a Nazi as a special government employee and wants to annex Canada is simply mindboggling.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Leopards eat your face much Midwest?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

If you plan to do protesting - i wpuld highly recommend getting a Faraday bag gor your phone. Just turning it off isn't good enough

[–] ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

It took an elected Nazi to unite a country, agaisnt the Nazi.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For y'all who've never protested before... The reason why they don't cover it is because they never cover protests (unless people actually FSU then it's a "riot")... Maybe if libs cared when it happened to activists for BLM, anti-genocide, etc... Now it's just completely normal.

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"oh my god we did this thing for attention and no one is paying attention to us"

Maybe because we're burnt out because people are outraged every couple of minutes.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apathy is a part of the problem. The road to Nazi Germany was lined with many of your type that complained that the damn left are complaining too much

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

—Martin Niemöller

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I asked before, why was the set up to be the middle of the work week, in the middle of the day?

[–] RogueAozame@programming.dev 21 points 1 month ago

Protests need to be disruptive and get coverage to work. They must be inconvient for everyone involved. Think of it like a Union strike there is a reason you generally hear about package delivery strikes around the holidays and not just in the middle of the year. The issue is most people in the US cant afford to just leave their job in the middle of the day currently cause they have something to lose. Though the less they have to lose the more they will skip their jobs to show up and protest. The average US citizen has not gotten desperate enough for these protests to rally enough people and as such work. There is also a problem with how the news and people in power have portrayed these strikes and protests as inconveniences to the common person, which reduces the solidarity the working class should have for each other.

[–] unfnknblvbl 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Now if only all these people upset at Trump could have done something useful about it when they had the chance, like I dunno, voting against him...

Remember the BLM protests under his watch? He just had them gassed so he could have a photo op. I don't doubt he'd go further this time around. And with him gutting every federal agency that could protect Americans from foreign influence, they're not getting a useful opposition any time soon...

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Biden has us tear gassed too, for protesting a genocide....

[–] unfnknblvbl 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When (no really, I'm genuinely curious, please link me)?

Besides, which is worse: genocide, or a full ethnic cleansing with a war on science, arts, women, BIPOC people, and the LGBT+ community at home?

Because by protesting the former you got the latter. I sure hope you like that moral high ground..