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Community creation question (infosec.pub)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Natanael@infosec.pub to c/infosecpub@infosec.pub
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Hi all!

On reddit I'm the main moderator for a cryptography subreddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto and I'm considering migrating it.

There's a few cryptography subreddits (one named cryptography which is the main option), the main difference with the one I run is we're a bit stricter about being on topic and thus maintaining higher quality discussions (in part because we're under a heavy flood of spam bots, so we need to filter strictly). We got plenty of people over there who are professional cryptographers

I see there's also a cryptography forum on this instance, but it's very scattered and doesn't really have very high quality posts. I wouldn't want to just take over an existing forum here, if I move the reddit community I'd like to recreate /r/crypto as a new forum here and establish it with all the same rules, etc.

Is there interest from the admins for that here? And how dedicated are the admins to maintaining this instance in the long term? (I don't want to have to move the forum multiple times)

And how much interest is there from the lemmy community?

(sidenote - this time around I'd handle moderation from a separate account, not from my main)

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[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Wherever you end up in the fediverse we'll be glad to have you. Looking forward to a great community. Thank you for the admin work you do!

[–] shellsharks@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do it! If we can make this place (the entire instance in general) more active, it will draw more folks to all communities.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Jerry passed me control of !crypto@infosec.pub already (via my ~~modhammer~~ alt), started posting to it to get it started

[–] skaffi@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you would be a most perfect fit here. I think a lot of people on this instance would be excited to have a vibrant crypto community here.

The crypto community we have here isn't so much "lower quality" as it is just dead. There's been just three posts there in the last year. I was going to suggest you ask the owner of it if you could take over, but it looks like they haven't been active for two years.

I think you should just ask @jerry@infosec.pub or @shellsharks@infosec.pub if you can take over. There's no reason to have two crypto communities, if one of them is dead; you get to keep your old identity of being called "crypto", instead of "cryptography", or something else; and there are presumably a lot of the subscribers of /c/crypto that would very much like to have an active crypto community show up in their feed.

Welcome to Lemmy, and to Infosec.pub - I hope to be able to say the same to your community!

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just checked who the existing mod is, and I recognize the handle @SqueamishOssifrage@infosec.pub from reddit (although they haven't been active in either place recently)

Like I said, wouldn't just want to suddenly kick out existing mods, although they don't seem to be around so 🤷

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell, @SqueamishOssifrage hasn't logged in to the site for about 2 years, and to be honest, I'd rather have a the community moderated, so if you want, I'll add you as a moderator.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fine by me if you prefer it that way

Keep in mind I'll still rather have a separate moderator account, would need to set one up. It's so annoying with shared personal and moderator DM, etc

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like a plan. Just let me know

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just made a registration - same username over here as my moderator's flair over on my reddit account, haha (trusted third party)

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks. Can you make a post in that community? It’s the only way I know of to make someone a moderator

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just to clarify - post with your moderator account.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Made a post

https://infosec.pub/post/23658227

No way from admin tooling to do it?

Edit: I'm seeing strange differences in visible post history in the community between this account and the new account. The new account only shows a small subset of posts

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lemmy’s admin tooling is… basic

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So the new account only sees posts less than a year old, but this account (also on the very same host!) sees that plus older posts 🤷

Edit: ignore that, found the right settings. Weeeird

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Separate question, is there any automoderator equivalent around here?

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I will install one today and send you the details

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Great!

[–] jerry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ok. I set up threativore and added you as a moderator. I doubt it's as sophisticated as what reddit had to offer. The instructions are here: https://github.com/db0/threativore/blob/main/README_manual.md

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

... Does it not have granular access right control? The FAQ doesn't describe any delegation

Edit: ok, "trusted" users can have specific permissions. Need to check details. Would be great if it could be extended to recognize forum specific mod teams, and for example let teams share specific rules (on reddit it's common that certain subs share intel on spammers, etc)

Edit 2: will go through it tomorrow. Will port a bunch of rules from the reddit automoderator setup. About time I convert some of the stuff to regexp.

[–] skaffi@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Awesome, thanks jerry!

Welcome to the party @Natanael@infosec.pub - glad you want to take care of !crypto@infosec.pub! I hope you'll be able to convince a decent chunk of your community to come with. :)

Perhaps look into finding a decent cross-post tool, and start cross-posting any posts made on /r/crypto to /c/crypto. Well, I suppose you should give OP a short amount of time to also post here, in case they already have an account, but otherwise, you should do it. No one will migrate, or start being active here, if there isn't already some activity.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'll see what I can do. Don't have hosting ready for anything automated though.