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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump won by 1.5% and the media acts like it was a Reagan-esque 1980 sweep. They had to gerrymander for decades and launch a massive misinformation campaign to get this outcome too. Plus Biden had to be one step into dementia and punt to unpopular Kamala (who lost her 2020 primary attempt) last minute to help this small victory. Yet everyone is acting like this is some massive referendum and America fully swung to the right. These sycophantic tech bros are showing their bellies awful quick.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gerrymandering isn't possible with presidential races. And he won by 86 electoral college votes, including all of the states people were looking at as possible swing states. That's why everyone is saying he won a landslide.

The fact that he won despite being a literal convicted criminal and despite having previously shown himself to be one of, if not the worst president in history, says a huge amount about Americans' willingness to accept fascism. People are right to be troubled by this.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Gerrymandering doesn’t directly affect presidential races, but it does affect them. States that were gerrymandered to Republican super majorities created rules to make voting harder for lots of democratic areas. They limited ballot access and purged voter roles in blue areas. It also affects the electoral college. As part of all the other tactics, it all made a difference.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

To drive home that point even further

More than 89 percent of counties in the United States shifted in favor of former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election

[...] the 2024 results showed that all 50 states had shifted right.

Source: NY Times

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

Trump won by 1.5% and the media acts like it was a Reagan-esque 1980 sweep.

Agreed. Every president tries to pretend that they have a mandate. But consider:

Wisconsin has 10 electoral votes. If 14,699 people in Wisconsin had voted differently, Trump would have lost Wisconsin. Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee will fit that many people.

Michigan has 15 electoral votes. If 40,052 people in Michigan had voted differently, Trump would have lost Michigan. Comerica Park in Detroit will fit that many people.

Pennsylvania has 19 electoral votes. If 60,134 people in Pennsylvania had voted differently, Trump would have lost Pennsylvania. Beaver Stadium in University Park will fit that many people.

Without those electoral votes, Trump would have lost the election. That was the size of his victory: 2 stadiums and an arena.

Source:

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

His defense of his stance is pretty weak as well, imho.

It feels like it would be a bit like IBM working with Hitler and saying "well he's right on this one specific policy issue."

The idea that he honestly thinks Trump is fighting for anyones rights betrays what must be ulterior motives.

While there are other good people on the board, it is going to be hard to get this taint off of Proton.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It feels like it would be a bit like IBM working with Hitler and saying “well he’s right on this one specific policy issue.”

"As the owner of an asphalt company, I think this new Reichskanzler's autobahn-building initiative is fantastic!"

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes me question whether he's going to secretly start logging certain activists. I'm not implying he is, but praising a known fascist with autocratic aspirations doesn't make me feel good in the context of privacy.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm aware of that case. Since then, they haven't claimed to have totally private email, but they were able to do that partly because of how email works, and back then, they only did it because they were bound by law. Their VPN works differently, due to storing any log data only in memory and only temporarily (i.e. nothing is written to disk). That's not what I'm referring to.

When I say I'm concerned, I'm referring to actions like changing that no-log policy on their VPN without telling anyone.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You are pretty naive about their ability and willingness to tell anyone especially after all the bad press they got for the case above. They don't have a warrant canary and their excuse why not only applies to Swiss citizens.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

They don’t have a warrant canary and their excuse why not only applies to Swiss citizens

What is their excuse? I haven't heard it.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

And you're entitled to your opinion and to be more suspicious. I'm not really interested in making cynical guesses upon the mere possibility that I might be right someday.

I'm not a customer of theirs, so I don't have much care what he says except for what it means for people who use Proton and for privacy in general.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reposting some links from a thread two days ago about his response on Reddit.

I thought this comment (and the thread below it...and the lack of any reply to it despite the CEO being all over the thread elsewhere) was pretty telling.

It's much less of a strong tell, but is slightly concerning that he's picked up language like "triggered". As comments there say, his excuse of not being in-tune with American politics could be real, but are also possibly just plausible deniability, because he may have picked up on that language by hanging out online with fascists.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's also worth noting that technically his username is "andy88" (1011000 is 88 in binary) which while that's likely his birth year, is still something you would hope someone from Switzerland of all places would recognize it as a Nazi dogwhistle and in poor taste for a username.

He might be able to hide behind not being familiar with US culture, but he cannot hide behind not being familiar with Nazi culture.

At a certain point, it stops being just coincidences.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

I saw this on Mastodon yesterday and immediately deleted all my proton stuff.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not technically wrong. The Google stuff started under Trump (which is a big part of why everyone is kissing his ass now). The ability to make the argument that the GOP is the working class party is the fruit of innumerable evil decisions made by the DNC, starting with supporting Reagan's neoliberal gutting of our way of life, and culminating with campaigning with the Cheneys as their standard bearers.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He's not technically wrong that Republicans stand for the little guys???

That's 100% wrong!

If he stopped at DNC being corrupt, sure, but he goes as far as to suggest that Republicans care about little people and I'm sorry but anyone who believes that is either getting paid or an idiot.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

Agreed. It's possible (and accurate) that neither party is "for the little guy." It's a false dichotomy to claim otherwise.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 13 points 1 week ago

Fuck Trump, but also he’s right about the Democratic Party not standing up for the little guy. They stand up for corporations and defense contractors. Even CNN, aka the Democratic Party News Network, called the UHC assassination a tragedy and aired “heartfelt” stories about how the CEO was a great guy and had a family.

If they were the ones standing up for the little guy, they wouldn’t have snuffed out Bernie

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The tech sector is gloming onto the Trump train 🤷

Unless you like being disappointed, don’t expect better from CEOs. CEOs are on Trump’s side of the class war. The “little guys” he’s talking about are not the working class, they’re the petite bourgeoisie.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Is he correct about the antitrust actions starting under Trump?

What's so good or bad about this woman he's so enthusiastic about?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

Don't post pictures of text

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Motherfucker! I just switched to proton from bitwarden a couple months ago.

Where do I go from here? I've got their family plan thing for vpn and password manager. Help me find something else?

[–] rutrum@lm.paradisus.day 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why did you switch from bitwarden?

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Because they did some stuff a while back with closed source code, and it scared me off. I'm not the most tech literate person, so I mainly base my stuff off what the open source nerds tell me to do. With a password manager in particular I wanted to be on something open source, because I don't trust big corpos not to backdoor into my shit, especially since I don't really understand how it works and don't know how to keep myself safe other than listening to people who know more than I do. So when the open source folks started saying get off bitwarden, I did, because I saw what happened with other password managers that had leaks and hacks. Plus, I wanted a vpn anyway (and now actually need one if I want to watch porn in my Christofascist state), and they only charge me like 20 bucks for everything.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Mullvad for VPN anyway.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 5 points 1 week ago
[–] belated_frog_pants 5 points 1 week ago

Im so tired. God.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago

He owns the company that distributes proton.me accounts?