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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Eh. Home users often don't even pay for their licenses.

Selling windows licenses to other businesses has always been how windows made most of its money. I don't even want to think of how much work it would be to get hexagenarian office workers to switch to Ubuntu (or any other flavor of linux, frankly). That's not a dig on Linux, it's just that trying to switch to any other operating system would be so painful that MS could ask basically any price and companies would pay it.

The gaming/home user space may well continue to slide toward Linux, and I hope it does. But making inroads to the corporate desktop is the real challenge.

[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I’m not sure they should be… most of Microsoft’s income comes from business. O365 and oem keys on all the laptops sold to companies heavily outweigh gamers home systems.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A lot of the reasoning for using MS products in businesses is that people are used to them from home.

So the workers run Windows computers with MS Office because that is what they know since childhood because at home there was a Windows computer with MS Office.

This wont take immediate effect. But it can erode the basis for MS in the long run. Especially as they are pulling the stunts with Win11 and price gouging on O365 licences.

I switched to linux last year. Buying a new computer without OEM Windows licencse was 200 € cheaper. And O365 doing everything as a web app also means you dont need to run Windows to run MS Office anymore.

Meanwhile Steam is pushing compatability for games and sooner or later businesses will consider switching to a linux distro and run their Windows software in a compatability environment, as well as more and more software producers will work on compatability or even native.

This will take time, but MS arrogance will be its downfall.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i know more folks who are entirely disconnected from the office ecosystem than i do folks who use even a single office product. google ate office’s lunch like a decade ago, i reckon that was at least part of the reason microsoft switched over to the subscription model.

i wouldn’t be surprised if their market share of office apps has shrunk by ~50% in the past 10 years. they’re trying to pull an adobe, but in contrast adobe at least had some killer apps in their suite. office hasn’t brought anything to the table what wasn’t already there in AGES.

[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I dunno, every damn says admin job listing I’m seeing these days is asking for windows admins. For sure Google made a dent but how many of those Google shops are also using windows devices to access Google docs and still use Active Directory? They have their fingers in so many pies in the business world I think they honestly couldn’t care less about home users.

[–] amelia@feddit.org 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If someone could finally find a way to run Adobe software on Linux please

[–] yuri@pawb.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] amelia@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks. I use GIMP a lot for small things but without proper non-destructive editing it will never be a serious alternative to Photoshop, unfortunately. Also I rarely use Photoshop, mostly Lightroom.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

Gimp 3.0 has non destructive editing, and is in release candidate state.

[–] excral@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

If enough people switch to Linux, Adobe themselves will find a way

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I got Illustrator 2022 and Photoshop 2020 to run on wine. Only the "patched" versions, though.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a guide for that? Just some pirated copy with wine? Or is there something more difficult involved?

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I used the m0nkrus versions, installed them on Windows (because his installer doesn't work in wine) and copied these folders into my wineprefix:

C:\Program Files\Adobe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe
C:\Program Files(x86)\Adobe
C:\Program Files(x86)\Common Files\Adobe
C:\ProgramData\Adobe
C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\Local\Adobe
C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\Roaming\Adobe

Then I used winetricks to install these dependencies: winetricks vcrun2022 vkd3d dxvk atmlib corefonts gdiplus allfonts fontsmooth=rgb

If it crashes often, disable GPU acceleration in the settings. Photoshop just works, but Illustrator needs a patch applied to wine, otherwise the GUI has major graphical errors and you also need to add a DLL override for msxml3.dll and set it to "native, builtin".

Illustrator also needs these files copied and renamed in its own directory:

icuin73.dll => icuin.dll
icuuc73.dll => icuuc.dll

According to this result, Photoshop CC 2023 seems to run now, too.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you :)