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Unionize fellllloooooooows
SWE union when?
Crushing poverty and the threat of starvation
Literally none of those things are coming back, where does the person who made this live?
Like the only thing coming back from the 20’s is the rise of fascism and the Great Depression.
If you're not dressing as a flapper what are you even doing with your life. Get with the times, it's never been more acceptable to be a cute little flapper regardless of gender. I will die on this hill, or by a novel strain of influenza that gets blamed on an unrelated country, either way we're going full rip-roaring 20s doll.
People should give Kansas a LOT more shit than they do.
Why would you die on that hill? You're alone up there lol
Dress how you want, but the point was that virtually nobody else is doing it
https://www.gocomics.com/shen-comix/2019/11/15
It was originally posted in 2019. Joke of course being that things associated with the 1920s would be relevant again in the 2020s.
Comic then shared as a meme with the 3rd panel being replaced with other panels. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/things-were-bringing-back-in-the-2020s
We need the FDA, department of education, disaster response and infrastructure. Sorry.
We can have regulatory institutions while still democratizing the economy. We don't need capitalist-neo-feudalism to work together to protect public health, improve our educational and build infrastructure.
I'm arguing against anarchy, and I think you know that.
Anarchy isn't the complete lack of all organization and cooperation, especially anarchosyndicalism.
I'm sure you'd agree that anarco syndicalism is a strategy unfamiliar to most people around the world. I'm sure you read the news often enough to know that people don't know how their own system works, let alone one as exotic as anarcocynicalism.
So instead of crossing your arms and demanding to know why somebody doesn't know this, you could instead educate them. Provide a link. Give an explanation. Help that person bridge the gap between what they know (for example, I used the word anarchy in my response, so you can safely assume that I'm familiar with that term) and what you know.
This helps people move towards your goal, because now they have tools to begin doing the work.
Or you can stand there, cross because people don't understand, and you've done nothing to educate them, with no forward motion and just a series of complaints. It's up to you. I wish you the best of luck making your choice.
They've been trying, you're ignoring it and pretending to be an injured party.
im not sure you know what you're arguing against based on this response tbh
Very good clarifying follow up! The information you provided is really useful, especially considering a discussion is about a lack of information. Thanks for your input! Twice, by the way.
ahhh one of those "why did you invest low effort in responding to my low effort trolling" folks. It's not my job to educate everyone arguing in bad faith (or in blatantly incoherent ways if not in bad faith) about the thing they claim to know about. if you want that i recommend putting in the effort to be less entirely hostile to someone who gave you a pretty matter of fact rebuttal to your very low effort concern trolling. Otherwise, ask some questions. actually engage. eduction is a two way street but your side of it appears to be blockaded and actively hostile.
also like, at least skim a wikipedia page or something?
I'm not trolling and I won't allow you to suggest that I am. Your failure to understand what I meant doesn't mean my efforts were deliberately obtuse; it means you failed to find understanding.
And I didn't say you're required to educate anyone. I said that if you want valuable discussion, changed opinions, or growth of any kind, you need to do the work to get there. You haven't done anything but make noise.
i have and will continue to suggest you are trolling mr reply guy. reread your participation here, and tell me again im just adding noise. cheers
im not sure you know what you're arguing against based on this response tbh
Very good clarifying follow up! The information you provided is really useful, especially considering a discussion is about a lack of information. Thanks for your input! Twice, by the way.
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