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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But even “documented” immigrants will not be safe, because Miller has declared that he will pursue the seldom-used process of “denaturalization” to go after people who have been citizens for years or decades, based on suspicions about purported fraud on their naturalization applications. Individuals stripped of citizenship will then be subject to deportation along with Miller’s other targets.

Ok, now that's just terrifying. I'd imagine a lot can be contested and won over using immigration lawyers but not everyone can afford that.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

also… naturalized citizens of the US have to renounce their citizenship in their nation of origin. these are people who love america in ways most of us can't understand or even really fathom. and most of them are definitively not safe in their country of origin. this is truly vile shit

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I see it being used as a political tool to silence dissent. Speak up? Get you or someone you love deported and have them lose their citizenship.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or it will be a way to give supporters some goodies. Take away a naturalized citizen's home or business and give it to a Trump supporter for pennies on the dollar.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bruh, what is this? Israel?

[–] Sas 2 points 4 days ago

This is the US that lemmy.ml wanted, so pretty much

[–] I_am_10_squirrels 2 points 4 days ago

Like John Oliver.

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So then wouldn't stripping them of their citizenship render them stateless? Maybe that would be the one thing that stops this since statelessness is generally frowned upon, especially when forced on people. Sounds like it should be illegal under international law if it's not already.

[–] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Like many human-rights related conventions, USA is not a signatory of the convention on the stateless persons.

USA so far kinda got a pass on many thing for being the "world police" and buying forgiveness with NATO protection. Remove that, and the US is basically yet another rogue state.

Lol, of course they didn't sign it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I'm Canadian and Canada didn't sign either, fucking fantastic. We routinely get away with this kind of thing too.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The EU really needs to update its citizenship policies to grap all the talented Americans loosing their citizenships.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why just take in the "talented" ones? Solidarity should be extended to all refugees

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

Pissing of nazis is a talent.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago

And in two years they might ask for a certificate that proofs that 4 of your 4 grand parents are actually american citizens...