@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because of the non-monoculture rendering engine.
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@jon@vivaldi.net a good browser has good dev tools, and an absence of AI bullshit.
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I use Chromium which is a complete browser that every Chromium based browser uses. It gets the work done.
Firefox for everything else.
@jon@vivaldi.net I use #Floorp now (Fork of Firefox).
@jon@vivaldi.net about:config
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I'm sure somebody here is going to yell at me... But Arc is so damn good on a laptop.
@jon@vivaldi.net FIrefox, but it's not my favorite browser. It's the (alleged) alternative to Google. Firefox a lot of the time is very unstable, and crashes. It takes roughly 40 minutes to be usable after it starts to load duckduckgo...."contacting improving duckduckgo" takes up most of the 40 minutes.
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@jon@vivaldi.net LibreWolf, a fork of Firefox.
@jon@vivaldi.net Brave
@jon@vivaldi.net I hate them all for different reasons. Here are my requirements:
- Ad blocker should be the default, no matter what corporations think.
- It should be possible to inspect and manipulate the code in real time.
- It should be FOSS.
- It should not force feed proprietary technologies or antifeatures.
- It should not require gazillion of RAM or storage. Why I would need 100-150 MB just for a text?
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For me I use both Vivaldi and firefox.
I like Vivaldi cause its all about customizability and has decent privacy.
I like firefox because it doesn't have to have chromiums bad choices (not including jpegxl, manifest v3, etc). Of the course the defaults aren't the best, but it is also very customizable (even if its harder to customize than Vivaldi).
@jon@vivaldi.net Zen browser. Based on Firefox, but better. Still in Alpha.
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There's no one. Hopefully Servo or Ladybird helps me decide.
@jon@vivaldi.net Personally I like Zen Browser, it’s open-source Arc like browser which I really like
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox because of its tweaks. I admire what Vivaldi has achieved, but Firefox can achieve almost the same with extensions. The only thing missing in Firefox are native tab groups, but they are a work in progress according to their site.
If Firefox vanished tomorrow, I would quite likely use Vivaldi. I was an Opera user in the old days. Vivaldi is the only browser that follows that spirit today.
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Has anyone tried floorp? I’ve been using it and it seems good with side tabs. Any others with opinion (good or bad) about it?
@jon@vivaldi.net #zenBrowser
@jon@vivaldi.net my favorite browser is Orion by @kagihq@mastodon.social
@jon@vivaldi.net no option for brave ? 🤔 otherwise i prefer firefox.
@jon@vivaldi.net @NCSA Mosaic
@jon@vivaldi.net to say that mozilla drove firefox into the ground is an understatement, but right now gecko/firefox (and derivatives) is the only engine/browser that is a viable alternative to blink/chromium monopoly.
in its current state, webkit doesn't stand a chance. plus, i can't live without firefox container tabs and ublock origin.
TL;DR: all browsers suck and i have no favorite, but firefox sucks the least and it is my browser of choice for most things.
@jon@vivaldi.net Librewolf: not Chromium, but also minus whatever bullshit Mozilla is injecting into Firefox this week.
@jon@vivaldi.net I was a vivaldi user, and still am, but recently Floorp has won me over. I've been using it full time for the last month, and I'm very happy with it.
@jon@vivaldi.net Orion for macOS (it uses WebKit, framework-native Mac application)
@jon@vivaldi.net Brave
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi loyal since its early days for its customisability and ear to the user, even though I find its hosting of user accounts quite glitchy.
@jon@vivaldi.net For me on Windows performance is more or less the same for all the above browsers. Edge is decent and do all what the average user needs. I like Vivaldi because is tweakable (I like the idea of the mail client but something on the UI doesn't work for me, maybe I'm only used with Outlook). Firefox because I use it since it was Phoenix and I'm so sorry it is dieing.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox because not chromium based. Vivaldi out of all chromium based
@jon@vivaldi.net @zenbrowser@fosstodon.org
#zenbrowser because it's Firefox with left side tabs, better interface and better privacy.
#Vivaldi
#browser
#Firefox
#Edge
#Chrome
#Safari
#Opera
#Windows
#Linux
#macos
#iOS
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@jon@vivaldi.net i kind of hate them all, each for a different reason...
@jon@vivaldi.net brave o waterfox
@jon@vivaldi.net Arc
@jon@vivaldi.net Zen
@jon@vivaldi.net Orion! We got a kagi subscription a while back and I enjoyed it so much I decided to try their browser. It blocks youtube ads on all my devices, so it's a keeper
@jon@vivaldi.net Selected
Opera for the Android mobile version with auto-reflow on zoom.
@jon@vivaldi.net It is like fashion. I switch between WebKit and Gecko.
@jon@vivaldi.net Brave... because it loads fast, and has the best built in ad blocking. Please change your ad-blocker accordingly.
@jon@vivaldi.net I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.
@jon@vivaldi.net I like Firefox as a platform, but don't like it as a browser
@jon@vivaldi.net Floorp or firedragon. They give me the customization. firedragon has the Librawolf privacy script implemented.  They both have the speed hacks implemented with the push of a button if that’s your thing. 
But at the end of the day, every single browser sucks so pick your poison. None of them are good. They either are gecko or blink with some sugar on top.
Yes, I know servo and LadyBird are coming, but they’re not here yet so they’re not part of the discussion 
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi and Waterfox.
@jon@vivaldi.net Code infused Silverlight™, so it makes the Software and Hardware better from running. #NoOffPC
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@jon@vivaldi.net - open source every part of Vivalid and then I could consider it for daily driver use.