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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you can't see the difference you're a god damned moron.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Go ahead then. Explain the difference without making shit up.

[–] Midnitte 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I guess the Israeli far right preferred Trump for no reason.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why wouldn't they? You made yourself fascists by chasing him but that doesn't change the fact that he was there before you. Of course they prefer him. Just like the American fascist voters you failed to swing.

Being a loser doesn't absolve you.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Notice how you didn't actually give a reason?

[–] Midnitte 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you really need me to Google for you why the Golan Heights president is likely a worse outcome for the citizens of Gaza?

Fine, how about his commitment to arm Israel with no strings attached? No humanitarian aid, no cease fires...

Anyone who thinks the Muslim-ban president is a good outcome for Gaza only cares about the real estate value of Gaza.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

how about his commitment to arm Israel with no strings attached? No humanitarian aid, no cease fires...

Oh you mean exactly like right now?

Anyone who thinks that orange man is an improvement is an idiot. But anyone who thinks Kamala would be better is also an idiot.

Israel is already getting everything they could ever wish for. There is nothing that Trump could offer that they're not already getting, including protection from the international community.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh wow Trump put the name on the map! Israel already illegally occupied the place and Genocided Palestinians for decades, but Trump but officially recognized it!!! (ignore israeli mass annexation and murder in the West bank the last year too)

When Netanyahu finishes ethnically cleansing Gaza under the Genocide Joe administration and starts building settlements, I will say 'no biggie'. Who cares about those millions of Palestinians undergoing a Holocaust.

The only thing that matters is when Donald J Trump officially moves the little border line on the American map. Because israel ethnically cleansing and annexxing the place under the Democrats is irrelevant.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

The AIPAC donations in the primary went to Nikki Hailey. Trump started receiving his cheques after he defeated her.

Is he in their pocket now? Of course. But he was not their preferred pick.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One mostly exports the genocide to the third world

The other wants to bring it home.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Go ahead then. Explain the difference without making shit up.

Task: Failed

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now, now. They made a distinction. It was just between the value of white lives and brown lives.

[–] wildtamaskan@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course, ignore all the rhetoric of trump and is ilk so you can call the other guy racist. That certainly seals the argument

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Please take a step back, take a few breaths, and try to be coherent to the context you're replying.

If I were you I would either recant my position or be VERY offended that I was accused with merit of being a white supremacist. You singled out as a distinction that the bad things would happen here. To people like you. Fairly explicit that should mean something more than the lives that aren't yours.

This is definitional chauvinism.

Wanna take another crack at replying now?

[–] wildtamaskan@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is there to be more coherent about? You boiled down that guy's response to be about skin color

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] wildtamaskan@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if that's the only thing you noticed, then who's the one being racist here?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just for context, you're a white supremacist trump supporter type, right? That's how you envision yourself?

Because I've literally never heard the "pointing out racism is the real racism" line save from them.

[–] wildtamaskan@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

never was. cant support the pos even before P2025 made the news. being pan and fucking lebanese, there's virtually nothing about the guy that i would be willing to support, short of dying of stress and old age before he can take over again.

racism is present in all parts of the political spectrum, but I guess its hard to tell when you only see the world in black and white.

by the way, your elitist tone is pretty annoying

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

whatever. best of luck palestinians who are still in existence in this moment.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Thoughts and Prayers"

Seems a fitting epitaph for America.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't get it. Are you happy Trump won, or...?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

No, but I'm still disgusted by the amount of gaslighting we got for the last 8 months. All Harris had to do was make a plan to end the war, but she.. didn't. And some liberals want to call it our (people who didn't vote for her) fault.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

More Palestinians will die under Trump. More Americans will suffer under Trump. More people around the world will suffer with a Trump presidency. But at least you showed the democrats...

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

More Americans will suffer under Trump. More people around the world will suffer with a Trump presidency. But at least you showed the democrats…

It's almost like the tankies just want what's bad for America and don't actually care about palestine or human rights.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Unlike you who never cared for Palestine and actively defends Israel.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What will trump do to cause more Palestinian deaths?
What COULD he do?

Israel is already getting everything they wanted, and facing zero consequences or obstacles.

I don't disagree with you wrt American deaths, but that's not what this post is about

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Granted, Biden did almost nothing to slow it down, and kept Israel well supplied with the weapons of genocide. Do you really think it's a coincidence that Netanyahu waited until the day after the election to announce that Palestinians won't be allowed to return to northern Gaza though?

Granted, that was almost certainly the plan all along, but now even the fig leaf is gone. Without the need to devote any thought at all to political cover, Israel will stop even pretending to internal investigations of accusations against their own soldiers and redeploy those resources to the battlefield.

The number of Palestinian deaths may not be different, but they'll die even sooner.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

The Generals plan is in full full force. Netanyahu has already fully cleansed north Gaza.

JOE BIDEN IS STILL THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

There was never a fig leaf. They already didn't need to devote any attention to political cover, the USA already made it clear that it wouldn't tolerate holding Israel or any of the Israeli politicians accountable in international courts.

The difference between the two is purely in wording and absolutely immaterial. If anything, trump is being more honest about it.

Trump is terrible for other reasons, but they're both equal in this matter

[–] wildtamaskan@pawb.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

How did you think this election was gonna go? You think there was still gonna be enough votes for Harris? Or that by some miracle a 3rd party candidate was gonna be elected?

People with your mindset are just as guilty as the dems are. No weasling out of this shitpile were now stuck in

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For my part, I'm not sure it is, though lack of votes didn't help. The meme is perhaps meanspirited so soon after the painful news, but here's my question, and this is genuine: now what?

Trump will get to pick a bunch of lower federal judges and probably two more SCOTUS judges. What's the way out when it seems to me that he and his jackals control the military, the police, and the judiciary? Seems like a hopeless setup to me.

Harris lost, so what's Step 2?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Step 2 is support third parties

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

I appreciate your answers, but I still don't follow the logic. Thanks anyway.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

and then they continue to get <5% and trump gets another term… then what?

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh no, mean spirited comments that don't actually add anything useful!!

This you?

BuT BiDeN nEeDs To EaRn My VoTe!

If we manage to avoid a fascist takeover, it will be in spite of the naive progressive idealogues who think they have the privilege to vote their conscience.

It's.... almost as if you do need to earn people's votes after all. Everyone already spelled everything out to you almost a year ago on changes the Dems could make but still you're wondering what Step 2 is?!?

Dems: We've tried nothing and are all out of ideas!, Third party, absolutely not!

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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm surprised to see an antinatalist support Harris. Seems morally inconsistent, though perhaps not from a consequentialist perspective. I've been blocking everyone sharing your sentiment, but I don't wanna block one of the few antinatalists here, so I'm commenting instead

Is Harris' loss my fault because I voted for De La Cruz? She could have easily earned my vote, but tried to court centrists and conservative voters instead.

[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Being an accelerationist makes even more your fault. It is bullshit the primary was skipped, but no progressives even tried to run there so you would have a similar choice.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn't asking you. I don't have a problem blocking you

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Am I happy I was right when I told Blue MAGA they should stop running a campaign on Genocide and was banned from LemmyWorld?

No.

Was I right?

Yes.

Your takeaway should be to start ignoring the Blue MAGA cult who tell you to stick your head in the sand while Holocaust Harris is speaking. Criticize them and make them so unpopular that they run another candidate who is not Bidolf.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright. Well, gotta deal with the pain of having a criminal conman for a president on our individual ways, I suppose.

I'm not really interested in criticizing people, myself. You can do what you like and convince people to join you in whatever way you deem fit, but in my experience, they tend to shut down and stop listening (maybe it's my delivery). I'd much rather show them there's hope elsewhere, especially because right now, that's what a lot of people want. Honey vs. vinegar, and all that.

[–] linkerbaan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright. Well, gotta deal with the pain of having a criminal conman for a president on our individual ways, I suppose.

By applying enough pressure that they run a decent candidate. Like how they replaced Biden because he would 100% not win after the CNN debate.

By allowing Democrats to run on a Nazi agenda and censoring dissent, the Blue MAGA crowd effectively doomed themselves.

Everyone fell in line behind an emperor without clothes. Are you really surprised the emperor has no clothes now?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's been so frustrating to have to put up with Democrats that try to enforce a Republican-style party line instead of building the coalition they need to win.

It's even more frustrating when they put a hundred times more effort into trying to build a coalition with members of the party they claim to be a threat to Democracy instead of their own left wing.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

This is called False Equivalency.

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