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Seriously, what's with that tunnel vision on snaps?
Best case scenario: sunk cost fallacy
Worst case scenario: there's a lot of shit you can do when you control a closed source app store, and canonical has a history of doing sketchy shit like selling user data to Amazon
the ubuntu machines at work are nearly unusable bc snaps don't play well with our intranet setup and it just so happens that ubuntu thought it would be a brilliant idea to make firefox, the default browser, a snap
slack is also a snap so the support team had to install it by hand so that we don't get locked out of work meetings while at the office
this sucks so much bc ubuntu is basically the first distro that comes to mind when ppl think "linux", so it shouldn't make us deal with this kind of bullshit. i wish they went back to the days where ubuntu was just a boring repackaged debian
this is pretty much my one problem with ubuntu, and it taints the entire experience tbh. its first time in years i dont look forward to updating because ill have to yank out snaps and figure out how to de-migrate my stuff back to flatpak.
They are backtracking and allowing deb out of the box again
Too late, back to Debian proper.
They should of just backed down and listened to community feedback after the first failure. Instead they pissed everyone off.
Snnnnap.
That's a no.
Lol I tried to install it on a test machine (not a WM) and I couldn't do it cuz of some snap failure. Though the latest Canonical's attempts to add a permission control system for snaps are very interesting to me. Ik Flatseal and KDE's implementation exist but having a really well made and integrated one can be a big deal for many users. If only it was for Flatpak...
Snaps have had a permission system for at least 5 years now.
Been using ubuntu for almost 15 years. My annoyance with snap made me just switch to bazzite (gaming focused fedora atomic ). Takes a little getting used to since its immutable but im liking it alot more so far.
24.10 is the first release I've had with major problems
It's Kubuntu for me, not Ubuntu, but yay shouldn't matter
Upgrade from 24.04 to 24.10 failed spectacularly, first upgrade failure in like a decade or so?
So I reinstalled, added crypttab and fstab devices, reboot, then that failed. For some reason, crypttab isn't working right.
In any case, I boot into an emergency she'll because of that, but systemd (frack systemd, just like snap) complains about /usr/sbin not being a symlink, saying its critical and why it can't boot
Eh, okay? I merge it with /usr/bin, symlink it, systemd happy. Things still seemed to work, so yay! Well, crypttab still isn't but we'll figure it out, let's get to work first!
Cue a few days later, most has been setup, and I want to install docker. Docker installation failed because a dependency failed to find a file. I can't even remember the last time that happened. I can't cancel the install either, so it's stuck and I can't install anything else.
After a day I figure out how to cancel the install completely by cancelling literally docker and every dependency, great.
Work a long time trying to investigate what's wrong, now I find other packages failing as well. Loads of searches later I figure out that apt hates /use/sbin is a symlink. Frack me for listening to systemd
Try to split it again, copying contents of bin to sbin, nope. Try to put backup directories back, nope.
Reinstall, and prep for attempt #3
Install again, all seems okay, but when adding crypttab and fstab devices, won't boot again.
This release sucks
Every single ununtu release since Warty has been trouble. Ubuntu breaks. Does wetid things. Makes weird choices. Upgrades often fail.
I am surprised it took you this long to run into issues.
I literally just installed it on a spare laptop. I was going to install the lts, but saw a new release and couldn't resist. Things seem pretty good so far.