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Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Edit 2: i might test first If I ever boot into my windows disk to see if I need it anymore

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[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 41 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.

Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won't mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)

[–] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there's no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.

one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

Did you write "thinkering" on purpose? Because it's fantastic.

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am happy Arcane is good tho. Knowing the characters makes it a more fun & engaging. They built some good art & lore.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

Arcane is a fantastic series, eagerly awaiting the next season. Even my sister is into it (and as far as I know she has no clue what League of Legends is)

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[–] nous@programming.dev 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it's a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 14 points 3 weeks ago

The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.

Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.

My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall

[–] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

Why wait? Dual boot, get cozy, still have the ability to go back to Windows if needed, find alternative apps, and soon enough, you won't need the Windows partition :) Worked for my partner, my brother, and myself

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.

Don’t wait, prepare!

Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dualboot definitely, don't belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

plan to wipe windows in the future anyways bcs win11 sucks

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it's still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.

As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).

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[–] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I jumped ship a month ago. Never really used Linux outside of some small school projects.

And my god have I had lots of issues with stuff that didn't work or it was missing some packages that I had no idea how to get.

I have a colleague that have used Linux for +10-20 years. So having somebody to ask for help is very valuable!

But all the games I normally play is working so I don't regret jumping ship.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Iam using mint, because it seemed like a good "beginner" distro

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That's what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.

As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can't play some games, but I've filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.

But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it's just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It's definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All advice here seems to focus on linux, but I'd say rip that bandaid off first. Go cold turkey on roblox. That shit is the worst cancer to come out of something that was fun initially.

Not in four months to a year. Yesterday. Learn to control your impulses first and the rest will fall into place, whichever way you go.

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[–] wazoox@jlai.lu 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My experience : jump ships. Dual-boot is unpractical. I dual-booted my PC at first, but that makes you remain on what's comfortable, and that's windows. Swallow the hard pill and leave windows behind. If you're already working mostly with OSS software (surf with Firefox, use LibreOffice, etc) than it's not that hard.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you'll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not. I personally don't see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you're paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn't remove the possibility altogether.

I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

You'll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won't need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it's still there, always has been.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you have a laptop and a desktop put it on the laptop fully rather than dual boot

Until proton came out I kept dual booting but I always ended up booting into windows because I didn't know how to do x on Linux

When I just wiped windows completely and put it on my laptop I distro hopped for a bit but never went back

Ended up switching my PC over too after about 6 months and I no longer own any windows machines, nor feel the need to besides the odd firmware upgrade of a peripheral or something

[–] zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As long as you have your windows license key you can change your mind later so really you can do whatever. I'd recommend giving 100% linux a try if that seems fun. Obviously you're gonna want to back up any interesting files that you have on windows either way.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

full linux right?

[–] drmoodmood@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't hurt to try. I weened myself off Windows by using linux every single day and fiddling around for a few hours. Eventually it just clicked and i very rarely boot up Windows nowadays for apps that will not run on linux. Good luck!

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you need Windows for some applications (e.g. Fusion, Call of Duty, etc.), dual boot it , but only the LTSC versions of it. Here are the links for the LTSC versions of Windows. I know that they're not from the official source, but I checked them and the checksums match. Otherwise, use Linux.

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!

Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets...

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Better just start dual booting. If you begin to use Windows less and less, you can throw away that Windows partition and expand your Linux partition.

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[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Jump ship. If you can make do without windows, do so. It takes away so much of the frustration, and you just learn to let it go when devs won't make linux-compatible binaries: after all, it's basically them telling you they need to be able to spy on you, so why use their app?

[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can't (one of the main things I use a computer for won't work on Linux) so I'll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don't see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!

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