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I used to be good at time management and very motivated in my career. Then about two years ago I lost a close friend over a strong disagreement and then lost my job.

Slowly but surely I became a bit depressed and had some physical health issues. I'm seeing a therapist already, and a few months ago I finally managed to get a plebe job at a retailer, but when it comes to doing my personal work that would open doors in my industry I just can't seem to find the time and motivation to do it.

Don't get me wrong. I got plenty of time available, I just find myself being ridiculously avoidant or distracted or tired, you get the idea. And, no, I don't use social media much, I don't videogame or binge shows. I just get distracted with house chores or simply overthinking.

I've already tried lists, planning and goal setting ( all this comes naturally to me), but it makes no difference.

I've tried reducing the expectations and goals, no difference. I still don't do anything.

I tried apps to keep track of my progress; also useless.

I've even considered finding a life coach, but I get the feeling they're a scam. Unfortunately I don't have any friends or relatives that can help me stay on track with my goals.

TLDR I'm getting a bit desperate here. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perhaps it's not procrastinating, but instead it's executive dysfunction. Or not but from someone who has really bad executive dysfunction, that kinda sounds like it.

Perhaps talk to your therapist about that, and perhaps some research as lots of times people with executive dysfunction think it's just procrastination which are two separate things.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I'll look into this as I'm not familiar with it. Cheers

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't sabotage Slef. He's a good dude, who's had a hard life.

In all seriousness, though, I'd love an answer to this as well. It's hard once you find yourself in a cycle of procrastination. You get used to allowing yourself to put things off, and it makes it harder to get back into the habit of doing them right when you should.

A few things that help me:

Do it right now. Remember that you left that important thing in the car? Haul your ass out there and get it now, because it gets trampled under foot and lost. Eat a bowl of cereal? Wash the bowl now, not later. Later doesn't ever get here. There's always more later when you think later is going to be.

Meditation. Try it. If nothing else, you get a nice little break from whatever your normal routine is, which in itself can help you shake things up. 5 minutes of deep breathing and focus can do wonders. I'm not great at meditating, and sometimes I wonder if I'm even actually doing it, but 5 minutes of breathing is better than not doing 5 minutes of breathing.

Set really small goals. Like, ridiculously sillily small goals. Goals you'd set for a small child. It will feel silly, and childish, and you maybe will feel embarrassed about it, but "I will brush my teeth" or "I will clean that dish" or "I will wash my face"

They're things you're going to do anyway, but turning them into a goal gives you a sense of accomplishment, and allows you to get into a habit of completing goals. Gradually increase the goals, and gamify life. It makes you feel accomplished, gives you a sense of progression, and helps to set a pattern you can use going forward.

I hope these things help, or that you find something that does.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To some extent I'm already doing some of these things and it's not hard to do house chores and personal hygiene (fortunately. I guess one can always get worse). My problem is specific to one area (career) and everything ties into it.

I'll try the meditation. I'm not convinced though. If you have any recommendations, shoot them. I used to do meditation for a while years ago and it felt like a waste of time, but, I'll admit back then I had none of these problems.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

When I went back to college with a new baby, a 2 year old and at times being the sole income for my family, I attended the free yoga courses offered at the school and found that was incredible for managing the stress I knew I had and the stress I didn't realize I was carrying with me. Plus you can approach yoga as "improving your flexibility" in addition to stress management

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

The small goals part isn't about setting goals you currently need in addition to what you're already doing. It's about setting goals you know you can reach with minimal or no effort. By doing that, you create a pattern of "winning," of achieving. It can help translate into other areas by tricking your brain into wanting to set more and more goals.

And career specifically is a tough one. Hygiene and food and shelter is all natural to us, but going out and working in an office or for a boss isn't the natural state of the human animal. It's something cultural we created for ourselves, and as such it can be a harder area to push yourself into in a lot of ways. It takes a different part of the brain, y'know?

Depression's a helluva drug, and it can make everything seem terribly difficult, but when it finds one area to really fuck you in, it can be so horrible to find any motivation. Especially in those areas that are outside of our evolutionary instincts. Have you considered speaking with a professional about medication? The meditation and the gamifying and such have helped me some, at the advice of a shrink, but medication is what got me through my early 20s. I'd be dead today without it.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I'll give my perspective anyway.

Why do you care about getting "back in your industry/career"? Yeah you did it previously, but is it really what makes you happy?

When you have goals, you always think "once I reach this, everything will be better". In my experience and with everyone I ever talked with, this was never the lasting case. Reaching some nice goal gave satisfaction for days or sometimes even weeks or months, but never longer. Then it was back to dissatisfaction and another goal.

The common path frequently described out of depression is getting back into the groove of setting goals, following them, not being satisfied, setting another goal, repeat. This is not how I got out of my depression and also not a good life.

I don't think it's important that you reach your goal of getting back in your industry or whatever. I think it's important that you're fine with not reaching it. I think it's important to recognize that you can be happy and satisfied right where you are, exactly with what you have.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't believe you're spending all your time "overthinking" or "doing chores". Stop bullshitting yourself. Try harder.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I used to think like you before this happened to me. I'll try harder nonetheless

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Separate your main goals into a list of more manageable tasks, arrange them by orders/priorities/delendencies and try to set a reasonable due date on the first tasks, but don't push yourself too hard or you'll get discouraged. It's also okay to have some downtimes.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're still working through depression to me. Be kind to yourself, give yourself time to heal and work through things, I'm glad you've found a therapist that's a great step. Do you think you want to go back to the industry or could you be avoiding it subconsciously? Something that has helped me a lot is journaling, you can wipe down your goals and break them down into smaller goals if needed.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know I want to go back, what I'm not sure about is the precise reason behind the avoidance. Because I am absolutely avoiding it.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Something to talk to your therapist about maybe. Definitely focus on yourself as your priority though. Do things which make you happy, exercise, seeing friends / family, spending time outside.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

This is the main reason I'm going to therapy, of course this is in the menu

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve even considered finding a life coach, but I get the feeling they’re a scam.

Yes, I agree.

But it sounds like you're experiencing depression. I've been through a lot of that. Consider seeing a psychiatrist and getting on an antidepressant. I was in denial about my state for months (because admitting it would make it real) and finally got back on an antidepressant after years without. The change was so profound that I wish I'd done so sooner to spare myself the suffering. I wish you the best!

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, though the professionals I've seen recommended against medication.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That sounds like depression, executive dysfunction or some other brain dopamine issue. No amount of lists or "trying harder" (πŸ˜‚πŸ™„) is going to help. Speak to a doctor about it.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I already have, apparently this doesn't warrant medication. My problem is with one very specific area of my life only.