nobel committee went full on ai-brained this year, nobel prize in chemistry is for alphafold. they had three good years in a row, had to do something stupid ig
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lol that's gonna age like milk
still better than peace prize for kissinger
i mean they still can give nobel prize in literature to chatgpt for extruding most text in unit of time
this is not my field, but allegedly alphafold kinda works, but it's also not ai and more pattern matching, something that google does expertly. i still don't think that it's gonna be very useful even that it does solve a hard problem
half goes to david baker, you might remember him from rosetta@home thing. the other two people are from google deepmind
i guess it's one of these years when chemistry nobel goes to biologists, but now with layer of ai hype on top for some weird fucking reason
Sneers from r/physics! First up, this comment by napqe:
I'm sorry, but this is like awarding the nobel prize for literature to Xerox/HP/Brother for "improvements to printing".
And in the same thread, from GustapheOfficial:
Last year's prize was too relevant, they had to stagger the physics by a year.
We also have this by M1st_:
What's next? Someone gets a Nobel prize for another algorithm that numerically solves differential equations??
Finally, we've the title of this thread, by TheSkells:
Yeah, "physics"
Given how much money is being ~~wasted~~ invested in AI, they should have given them the Economics prize.
ah yes, the dynamite guy award show, a fine institution of the ages
Repeating a comment I made in another forum here...
The Nobel organization is basically all about PR, and while as the nominating body they’re nominally independent, the Royal Academy of Science knows on which side their bread is buttered. Having a prize adjacent to AI in the year of our LLM 2024 is a no-brainer.
Having a prize adjacent to AI in the year of our LLM 2024 is a no-brainer.
This works on multiple levels
AI is poisoning science development. It is not necessary that everything uses AI ffs!!
Hinton could be the first guy to win a Nobel and an Ignobel in the same year.
Using tools from physics to create something that is popular but unrelated to physics is enough for the nobel prize in physics?
So, if say a physicist creates a new recipe for the world's greatest potato casserole, and it becomes popular everywhere, and they used some physics for creating the recipe to calculate the best heat distribution or whatever, then that's enough?
Maybe if the potato casserole is exploded in the microwave by another physicist, on his way to start a resonance cascade...
(i'll see myself out).
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it's happening omg. check back in five years
From your linked post:
also from their pov the statistical approach to machine learning was defined by abandoning the attempt to externalize the meaning of text. the cliche they used to refer to this was “the meaning of a word is the context in which it occurs.”
Not an expert by any means, but this sounds like pagerank, but for language.
there's a similarity in the sense that they're both 'content free.' pagerank didn't care about what was on your site, only what your page linked to and what pages linked to you
(past tense bc it's unclear to me whether Google even uses pagerank at this point)
they diverge pretty significantly in one way: pagerank is an algorithm motivated by pragmatic simplifications. discarding the information of content when ranking sites is only something you would do because using content is really hard. you can take the statistical approach to semantics in the same spirit, but you don't have to... ai true believers are necessarily treating the maxim I referred to as a philosophical claim, something that addresses the ground truth of what words are
ai true believers are necessarily treating the maxim I referred to as a philosophical claim, something that addresses the ground truth of what words are
Thanks for breaking it down, I was missing this key bit!
To me it sounds like post-modernism.
Nobel prize in Physics for attempting to use physics in AI but it didn't really work very well and then one of the guys working on a better more pure mathematics approach that actually worked and got the Turing Award for the latter, but that's not what the prize is for, while the other guy did some other work, but that is not what the prize is for. AI will solve all physics!!!111
The Nobel Prize committee really seem to be trying hard to make this the worst set of awardees ever, aren't they? All we need is another Kissinger-esque situation for the Peace Prize and a Handke-esque situation for the Literature prize and they'll have disgraced the Nobel Prizes permanently.
Netanyahu for the peace prize, is Vance for literature.
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