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Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
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- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
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SimpleX maybe π
Not usable until they support unifiedpush. I won't burn my battery with simplex.
Actually it's not burning my battery so much, but I can understand
Why not a matrix server?
Or Simplex Chat
Would be the most appropriate in this case as people don't need to hide when talking in public groups
Seen a lot of different opinion in this, but personnaly I would recommended this.
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SimpleX, for the most privacy (but not really appropriate here) Wouldn't use any of threema wire and else, as it's not the best.
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A good option in the case of this project is a matrix server, if the group is public it's the best thing. Try to host it somewhere else than matrix.org. Will have no real hiding but surely anonymously if done correctly
Why not something xmpp based? Or matrix
Lol not in Signal
Why not?
Basically a app that lock you with a phone, giving you only one account. Centralized servers. Not good.
Good for some use cases. Only if the Signal Foundation stays in the current track and it doesnβt go south like with Mozilla.
For a privacy chat group with random people, maybe another app would be a bit better.
Because you can't have privacy if a company asks for your phone number.
Depends, who do you want to shield what information from? Signal knows all of their usersβ phone numbers. You can hide it from other Signal users. All depends on your threat model.
The NSA
Burner numbers are pretty easy to come by...
Not for everyone. Check your privilege.
I mean online providers like jmp.chat, my sudo, and virtualsim will hook you up for a couple of bucks. So sure, if you are seriously cash constrained or crypto is unobtainable for you, then not so easy.
What @jagged_circle said but also. Even if you were lucky enough to be born in a country where you don't have to give government I'd and thumb print just to get a goddamn sim card. It is still feasible to trace it back to you if you are not careful and there are a lot of ways you can slip up.
Like if you use a phone/device which is know to be yours then even if you buy new prepaid sim card anonymously your ID will be revealed due to same IMEI.
Or if you turn it on in a public area where cops know that you are there (maybe because they caught you on a camera) even though this is public area how many people connected to that tower are using burner sims, and how many of those are into extreme privacy or into something they suspect you to be involved.
And so many other scenarios and at the end it will come down to humane error which will be very tricky to avoid in this case. Whereas in case of being online you can properly setup iptable rules. Qubes, whonix, etc. Test it yourself that even if your VPN/TOR/I2P/etc. Goes down you're not reviling your true IP
Do it on Wire and I'm in. No way I'm giving you my phone number.
This is a privacy community ffs
tbf, signal is a bit of a privacy joke
Yes. We should not be recommending it here in this community.
Where's the option to hide if from signal?