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I’m starting to get the data hoarding crowd more and more. We have been taught this dream of “the internet never forgets” but people missed to mention that it’s on the average Janes and Joes to make sure that is the case. Corporations want the internet to forget because it’s better for business.
I've become the same. I'm now that person seeking out more obscure and underrated gems from anywhere in the 30s through the 90s. I hate the thought of all this cultural collateral damage disappearing forever.
The internet certainly forgets...but a Usenet service with good retention will remember for about a decade
Never heard it put better
The internet never forgets... your private information.
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I don't buy anything less than a 3 year warranty. 0 issues so far.
I typically buy hgst drives.
I remember being laughed at when I admitted I still buy CDs, DVDs, or BluRays a few years ago.
Yep.
I rip them, then store the discs in a cool, dark, dry place.
Everything I rip is backed up. It's pretty clear what's happening.
And in 20 years they'll start "selling" everything by the episode online.
The "internet never forgets" was always bullshit. Just a catch phrase from ppl who don't understand how it works. It costs money to keep a server serving. Maintenance, support, upgrades, electricity, internet, etc.
Things are removed or lost on the internet all the time. The things you want to go away linger and the things you want to keep are fleeting. You don't get to choose unless you're paying. And those that are paying aren't keeping what you want them to.
Afaik, the phrase is supposed to mean "don't count on the internet forgetting something you want purged."
Yeah, I believe that began as a sort of Streisand effect-esque phrase, where if you want the internet to forget, it won't, but of course other things that most people are not paying any mind to will disappear
Data hoarders/pirates are the reason "internet never forgets". Who do you think retains those obscure pics/memes/videos?
No, what they really mean is that the internet will not forget the shit that don't matter. We're talking how obsessed people have gotten with Chris-Chan. All the while this shit is happening.
We don't give a fuck about how little of a life you live, where you orbit around shitty online people who do shitty things. We are losing stuff like this and getting fucked over all the while.
Public domain and abandonware and forgotten media are regarded by the media companies as a threat to their business model, since it is possible you can be entertained by them rather than their own for-cost offerings. It is no longer enough for them to control what you consume media, but insist on controlling whether you consume.
And the courts regard them as persons and members of the public as not. We don't count as invested parties.
According to the US and the EU we common folk don't figure.
It is now more ethical to pirate (or simply not consume it at all) than it is to obtain legitimate licenses.
In the modern age, we all need to be our own archivists, saving whatever we can from a perpetually burning Library of Alexandria. This is why pirates are a community, each one saves a little bit of history that matters to them, and then we share.
GenX tv addict here. I grew up in a time when, if you wanted to watch a show, you need to make an effort to be in front of the tv when it aired. If you missed seeing it, you had to hope that if was repeated over the summer (only about 2/3's the episodes of a continuing series would be repeated, and if a show was cancelled, that was it). If you missed it on summer repeats, you'd have to hold the show went into syndication, was carried locally at a time you were able to watch it, and then stalk the series because syndication packages were notoriously shown out of order (which is why almost all the episodes ended up with the characters being in the same base situation as they started out in).
It was the same thing if there was an episode or series you loved and wanted to watch again.
VCRs were an absolute game changer. You didn't have to revolve your life around a tv schedule- you could go out, to go events, go shopping, have a late dinner. You could pause tv to go to the bathroom, you could watch and re-watch episodes that you enjoyed, or verify something you thought had happened earlier instead of relying on collective memory. If you missed taping something, you might still have to wait for re-runs - but there was also the chance that someone else had taped it and could loan you the tape.
Having learned the lessons of broadcast tv, I taped everything I watched, and I kept the tapes of the stuff I liked, or that had actors I liked. I could sit down today and watch all the episodes of David Soul in Casablanca or Billy Campbell in Moon Over Miami, or short-lived shows like Space Rangers or South of Sunset.
I still record and save things locally. The myth of having immediate access to everything ever produced was always just a myth.
Oh, access to everything will happen.
The owners will just charge us for every viewing of every episode.
access to everything that isn't bogged down by stupid licensing deals, too. so many things just disappear because someone wants someone else to keep paying for that one song they added in a single episode 15 years ago.
Is there a data hoarding community on Lemmy or is this basically it?
Those of us who believe in the historical value of accessing media from the past are paying the price.
Who said I paid for anything?
The price this is referring to is not monetary. It's the loss of access and goods.
Pirate like your entertainment depends on it!