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*3,003 visually confirmed losses. Oryx reports 3,396.

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[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man, the T-14 must be such a great tank: none were destroyed

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thinking the Russian T-54/55 performance was remarkable.

[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

The T-34 is not bad ether.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

3,000 is way too low, are they just making these numbers up?

Russia has visually confirmed losses of 3,400 tanks. The actual number will be much higher.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The actual number will be much higher.

Ukraine reports almost 9000 tanks destroyed. Some time ago I made a rough calculation on what wikipedia lists on Russian military hardware and based on that they had around 14 000 tanks before the war started. I don't think that even Russians themselves know how many of those are in any kind of usable and/or repairable state and which are just scrap metal laying on some field in the middle of nowehere stripped of anything useful.

Additionally, Ukraine reported destroyed tanks in single digits per day for quite a while, but for last few days the numbers have gone up, I'd guess because of counter attacks in Kursk and/or because Ukraine is finally receiving some ammunition for their hardware. Whatever the case might be, majority of Russian tanks are destroyed anyways and I'd guess that what's left is soviet relics and a significant portion of those are just scrap metal (which is of course a useful resource) instead of anything even close to combat ready.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Agreed, they've burned through a huge amount, average quality is dropping, and it seems like they're not capable of producing a lot quickly.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the link! I didn't know there's a second open intel project visually tracking losses.

Maybe the truth is closer to 3,200 properly visually confirmed.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago

"Unknown main battle tank": "Were pretty sure it has its origins somewhere in the 20th cebtury"