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[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 174 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Senseless@feddit.org 80 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And PiHole, Sponsorblock, Adguard and ReVanced (depending on the device). This is a strict "no ads" household.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't forget Grayjay (or anything FUTO makes in general)

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Amazon Prime on my XBox literally doesn't work without my PiHole. I need to block the ads otherwise nothing plays. My PiHole was recently down for a few days and suddenly we couldn't finish any of the shows we were on.

Never trust these companies, they want to destroy their own products in the name of profit. Undermine them everywhere you can.

[–] max_adam@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

The vending machine would reject all bills because uBlock developers don't accept donations.

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 118 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Billy should really not support them, Ad Block Plus let’s advertisers pay for having their ads checked as "acceptable advertisements", i.e. is selling out the core functionality of their product. Billy should use uBlock origin, which afaik does not accept donations, he could however support something like PiHole .

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure those ads also have to meet certain criteria though.

Using ABP, I’ve never had a popup ad, full page ad, auto-playing video, or other intrusive form of advertisement. The “acceptable ads” have been quiet and out of the way in what would otherwise be empty space.

With the understanding that some websites and content creators are entirely reliant on ad revenue, I prefer to have those filtered down to those that don’t provide a burdensome experience.

I will say that having a new tab open with a solicitation for a donation / “premium” every single update (so almost daily) is irritating and they better knock that shit off if they don’t want to alienate users.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 6 months ago

The “acceptable ads” have been quiet and out of the way in what would otherwise be empty space.

I don't mind this whatsoever. I can appreciate the concept of free is paid for by ads, but when you force me to sit there and have to watch it, or pop ups take over the page, all that excessive nonsense, that's when I say fuck off and use an ad blocker that will remove everything.

I actually think dating sites could be improved if they had an ad you could swipe away every 10 swipes or something. (I absolutely loath swipe only apps though. I need to know your personality not your duck face pose....) for apps with bios they could have a "banner" type ad that is between segments of the bio. Anything but "pay $50+/month to make this somewhat functional."

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

I have no problem with the acceptable ads system. ABP doesn't get any money from it, and the ads have to meet the criteria anyways, and it's easy to opt out. I guess it's a bit fishy that the list maintainers charge money to get ads reviewed, but the FAQ ThunderWhiskers posted says that smaller companies get it for free, and they only charge the bigger companies. I'm not gonna get up in arms over someone charging Disney money for a service they give the local deli for free.

I also like the way it gives companies an incentive to produce less intrusive ads. With the system, unintrusive ads reach more people. Otherwise, it's all or nothing, which makes intrusive ads the best option from a greedy perspective; they're far more likely to be clicked, and the only cost is the risk of damaging the ad ecosystem as a whole (and you know how little corporations can care about damaging ecosystems.)

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 112 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

adblock plus is shilled and lets ads through.

ublock origin, folks. and firefox, because adblocking wont work on chromium anymore.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Someone should edit this image lol

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 19 points 6 months ago

ublock origin baby best adblocker ever

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 31 points 6 months ago

This is the way, appeasement of ad producers doesn't work.

At some point number has to get bigger.

Before you know it were paying for cable tv with ads again.

[–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I'm a GenZ-er, and I adblock everywhere I can. What makes the difference with YouTube premium for me is that I fall asleep to YouTube videos on a TV every night, and the advertisements alone can make that experience terrible because you can't adblock YT on a TV as easily as elsewhere. Premium might be one of my best decisions I've made for a platform I spend so much time on. I still donate to Wikipedia and uBlock even if I pay the premium for other services.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm a GenZ-er

I fall asleep

Typical genZ, getting those zzzz's. That's probably how they got the name.

[–] Pueblo@feddit.org 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depents on your tv. There are good ways for some. S-tube next works for android tv for example, there is a way for webos too

[–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I've tried this but the experience isn't all there for me imo. It's certainly a great project though.

[–] Pueblo@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago

For me its even better, cause they included sponsorblock aswell.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 4 points 6 months ago

Youtube premium makes sense for me when combined in a family account for 5 with youtube music for 17.5 USD in total.

But besides that, fuck Google. Id pirate music if I wasn't so lazy but Google diminishing anything of what I currently get would probably give me some energy.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 6 months ago

Holy crap, it's the Florida Man!

[–] Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago

I use ublock AND pay for... Nebula.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

me but ublock origin

how? The creator of uBlock origin doesn't take donations.

[–] Lacanoodle@literature.cafe 7 points 6 months ago

Using ublock origin, not donating. Donations go elsewhere

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't believe for one single second that this will stay ad free. YouTube will eventually do like all the assholes do and have a tiered system where the first tier is simply less ads not none.

[–] Faydaikin 4 points 6 months ago

Yep, eventually ads will creep their way into the payed system.

At the end of the day, there's no such thing as enough money for corporations.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Even when you aren't seeing ads their algorithm is still controlling your front page, allowing them to push partner content that isn't directly advertising but still acts like it. The differences between a commercial for Doritos and an episode of Good Mythical Morning titled "Trying Every Doritos Flavor" from the perspective of the PepsiCo marketing department are that people might willingly click on the GMM video and they probably didn't even have to pay anyone for the video to happen.
Sure Rhett & Link may not have a partnership with Pepsi and are just innocently making content to give their audience (I genuinely believe this), so they've got no part in this becoming advertising, but you would have to be incredibly naïve to believe that Google's algorithm isn't smart enough to recognize that video and others like it as marketable content the promotion of which can be sold to PepsiCo.

Premium subscribers may not be seeing ads, but they are absolutely still seeing advertising.

edit: typos

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's a good point, but to be honest even if those thumbnails were just straight up ads I'd be ok with that. I can simply not click on it. Having any kind of actual ad on a premium service is absolute bullshit though, that's straight up greed...

Hell as a free user I wouldn't mind in the slightest having their segments: videos, segment for shorts, more videos, be broken up to have videos, ad banner, shorts, videos, and banner etc... don't lock me into having to watch an ad but I do understand they need ad revenue and I don't mind seeing the still image ads "of the past" (well past for me since I've used an ad blocker for-absolutly-ever now.)

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 7 points 6 months ago

to really support them, buy merch, subscribe to their patreon, make a donation via kofi... there are so many more viable ways to actually support your content creator than YT+.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

Hard-earned?

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 6 months ago

i think back in the day i would use adblock plus with chrome