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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It has to be easier to just switch to Linux than it is to do these bypasses

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

That's kind of why I switched. I was spending time and effort trying to force Windows to obey, I decided I might as well spend that time on an OS that wasn't actively fighting against me.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I got an Ubuntu 5.10 CD rom in them mail, using Linux then was a major decision. In 2016 I moved to a Linux only lifestyle and it was only a little hard. Now everything is web based and nearly every game in my Steam library runs on stock Debian, I would recommend LMDE/Mint/Ubuntu to any PC gamer and even most casual users.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The bypass is just ticking a box while making the bootdrive to install the OS. If making a bootdrive is too hard, installing linux is probably out of the question.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The install on Linux is easier than Windows

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The bypass thing happens when making the boot drive and is basically the exact same process as Linux. It just asks do you want to bypass it and you click that. If you aren't getting a boot drive, then you can't install it. And making a boot drive is the easiest part of a Linux installation.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t remember Diskpart asking that last time I installed Windows but I guess it doesn’t matter anymore

Linux install is just clicking next a bunch, you don’t even need to go into CLI

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rufus does.

You still have to decide what you are doing with different storage devices and partitions, regardless of what OS you are installing. If you have a single storage device and a single OS, it's probably straight forward. If you add more, it gets more complicated. At least with windows, if it's your only OS, the assumption is you will let it handle everything and it's all just nfst. With Linux, it often seems to want to make all sorts of partitions (at least home, root, and swap? Idr since it's been some time), make decisions about file systems and what type of partition. I rather not leave those choices up to default autopartition options, especially when dualbooting.

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just using ventoy these days, saving my iso images on the usb key and picking the live image to boot with the menu ventoy kindly provides at boot time

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Ventoy is cool. Wish clonezilla didn't have issues with images being in the same device as clonezilla, but that's not ventoy's fault. I still just have a windows boot drive lying around since before ventoy, so I forgot to consider that. Granted, I'm not sure how many people who already have ventoy setup and defaults to using it without looking up guides and l wanted to install W11 on an old device for some reason would find it hard to figure out how to do so.

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If you've bought or built a new PC within the last eight or so years, then it'll almost certainly have a TPM chip, but the older the hardware, the less likely it'll be present or the right version.

That meant when Windows 11 appeared with its TPM 2.0 requirement, an enormous swathe of perfectly viable PCs were left without the chance to upgrade to the latest version of Windows

Linux people: Linux would never do you dirty like this.

Mac people: Whoa, they let you use EIGHT YEAR OLD hardware? Lucky!

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also Linux: running in 13 year old apple hardware.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a 16 year old ThinkPad running an NVR server for 4 cameras. It's not happy about it but it works >_<

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice, the oldest I have is a netbook from 2008. It still works as a mpd server

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sweet, good application for it.

(I have been looking for a way to selfhost my music collection. Thanks!)

Glad I could help :)

Another way can be module-native-protocol-tcp, which is a module for pulseaudio to accept TCP traffic. I haven't done that myself, but I've seen it working. Maybe it can work even on older machines. The arch wiki has a nice section about it.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Seriously. I'm running the same version of the same distro on machines manufactured over a decade apart. And even if my distro dropped support for my older machine in its next version, I have 10 years to find a replacement.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

But over in the phone world:

Android phone :: two years old? We don't do updates any more. Buy a new phone.

Google/Samsung :: if you buy our expensive range, we can do five years of updates. Isn't that great!

iPhone SE 1st gen :: still going strong with updates after 8 years.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

My HP Zbook didn't pass the Windows check, it said TPM is wrong version. i ran the HP firmware update to bring TPM chip from 1.2 to 2.0 version. Reran the Windows checker, it now failed it on the CPU (where as previously the CPU was approved). So they are telling me to keep running OpenSUSE :)