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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 107 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reason this is done is because you can see everything your browser is doing, but you can't see everything an application is doing without disassembling it.

I want very much to go back to websites. Apps are stupid.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 34 points 2 months ago (6 children)

the reason is children. for some reason the most recent generation of kids requires apps instead of sites. god forbid they have to remember an address.

just look at the fuckload of people who cant use lemmy without an 'app'

this is one of my peeeves

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

One benefit an app for something like Lemmy offers is significantly better customization.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

thats a copout for the site sucking. lemmy looks like someone forgot the css. one of the reasons i chose mbin, its not fugly and very user-configurable. .

no app required

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, I think part of it is because they grew up interacting with apps because parents were, mostly rightly, restricting their children from use of the greater unrestricted web. Every modern parent I know had children who knew which apps on mommy or daddy's phone they were allowed to touch - their games or youtube kids or whatever. These apps provided easy safeguards for parents to rein in their child's internet experience. Even if these methods weren't perfect in their attempt (Elsagate and all that), this was still good practice for allowing your child access to modernity in the times you couldn't fully devote your time to overseeing their activity with relative confidence they were probably not watching wildly inappropriate content.

In a perfect world parents and educators would also be devoting time to teaching their child to navigate the internet and allowing them monitored (with physical eyeballs, not tracking) online browsing time, but I don't think we can rightly fault the kids for not having received that. Rather than grumbling about the situation, I think we'd be better served accepting it for what it is and instead approaching the topic from a stance of: how do we teach them better behavior and help them unlearn these bad habits?

edit: typo

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[–] tootnbuns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They just haven't seen the light yet - I feel like most people from every generation are app'd up.

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 76 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hate that websites will purposely block a perfectly working website feature if it sees you're on a mobile just to refer you to their mobile app.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

FUCK websites that require a login, i'm looking at you twitter, you need to be sued over this shit.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Insta. Facebook. In fact all social media that only lets me see 3-4 messages before demanding I log in. Fuck. You.

it's actually so bad, i genuinely have started to not use the internet outside of like, youtube, npr sometimes, and wikipedia. And archive.org because it's actually fucking useful.

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[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well Twitter is awful anyway, so no big deal...

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[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Go to browser settings on mobile and switch on desktop mode. Fuck them sites.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

imgur is evil

[–] Staden_@pawb.social 74 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

An app for a fucking cemetary!? Nuh-uh

[–] Zier@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

I hear it's dead now anyway.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Laurel Hill is a historical cemetery with a few historical figures buried there. Actually, I think Adrian Balboa's fictional grave is there, too. The app has audio tours and information about the architecture and stuff.

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[–] aeharding@vger.social 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

Anybody who wants to offer me an open source app that doesn’t spy on me is totally fine, especially when the app kicks ass.

  • sent from Voyager
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you explain this? I'm a very stupid person.

[–] zorblitz@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Voyager started off as a website(wefwef.app) but is now also an app

[–] rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

Voyager is a Lemmy client.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 36 points 2 months ago

Most of these memes are ironic, but this one is actually true. These apps could just be websites, but instead they're bloated spyware

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Unironically this. There's nothing these stupid apps do that they couldn't do on a fucking browser from 2018. If you want people to use the stupid app over the site, then please have only the stupid app and ditch the "just pretending it works" site and for fuck's sake, don't make the stupid app a javascript mess, because THAT could've been a fucking site instead.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Buddy, these apps could have been done in php and ajax 15 years ago

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

I know. It grinds my gears how sites of 15+ years ago worked better and loaded faster than the shit we have today.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 7 points 2 months ago

The secret is that tons of apps are just web browsers in a costume.

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dunkin Donut's website just doesn't work. The app is mandatory. Noped out of there real quick lol

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[–] FrozenHandle@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am really confused about this meme template, didn't its usage used to be satirical (not sure if that's the right word)? I remember seeing ones like "Nobody ever needed maths", but recently I am seeing them inverted where the subject matter is actually criticised for being useless. Instead of claiming something useful to be useless. Can someone explain? when did the usage shift?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

it's pseudo post-satire is how i like to think about it. It's satirical by nature, but it's gone so far, that it's not quite straight satire, some of the points made are genuinely accurate.

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[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

TFW someone makes a desktop app but it’s literally just a bundled chrome browser page

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Lychee, a slicer software for 3D printing, immediately comes to mind. It's a fucking electron app. It also only works if you login to a fucking account, even the free version, because fuck you. Oh, and free users have to sit through 30 seconds of advertising whenever they click "Slice", because fuck you again

[–] unfnknblvbl 3 points 2 months ago

But also, MFW somebody turns a perfectly usable desktop application into an internal website that ends up only working on one browser...

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Controversial opinion. I love apps.

(Only because in my company, we created a app team to hire more developers and while our website absolutely doubles as a really fucking good web app, we hinder it in order to keep our app developer homies employed.)

[–] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 29 points 2 months ago

im convinced 99% of app development is just for enhanced tracking and telemetry. Most are a browser in app anyway

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please pair this with: Stop forcing me to make an account for your useless fucking service. It's a pain in the ass and only serves your corpo tracking while I get nothing in return

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

I agree it's annoying, but I've been using temp-mail for accounts I'll only ever use once and mysudo for accounts I'll need longer and it's been working well. Except ticketmaster doesn't accept voip numbers for your phone.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

One of the most ironic things is if you willingly download the app version of a website, hoping it would speed things up and reduce internet data usage, just for the app to be using WebView or some other micro-browser engine which will essentially be the same as if you were visiting the website using your browser as before.

Thanks for nothing.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of website use so much ressources, I couldn't visit its with my 5 years old laptop or my "smart" phone. The only way to access their services is with apps. Fortunately, I could choose FOSS apps on F-Droids

However, loading textual information shall not consume all my RAM and most of my CPU. There is an issue with today web

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Firefox Android has uBlock Origin.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Yea this pisses me off!

-Sent from Boost app

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a side point, what the hell is wrong with Snapchat's UI? It's a mess of buttons arranged by a monkey on cocaine. How is this shit popular?

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[–] lazzerot@startrek.website 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I always thought these were at least 50% ironic. Please don't tell me you don't actually want websites OP.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

I unironically do. I don’t use apps for almost anything.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

Bro most apps are unnecessary af!

[–] RubyRhod@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah. I refuse to use my gym app, cause unnecessary, but there's plenty of usecases where apps provide useful, specific efficiencies, not to mention the aesthetic improvements, and the ability to create and curate interaction.

Given a malware free world, apps can be cool.

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[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

'Member when apple didn't launch the iPhone with native app support and used the argument that HTML5 could do everything you could ever want, and they were wrong, but actually right as well?

Yeah, I 'member...

[–] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I'm so done with all these apps, I'm ready for the mains

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is why I only use Instagram through Firefox on my phone. A) Meta software ain't getting installed on my device. 2) The Instagram app fucking melts iPhones.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

I've learned the Facebook app actually causes a lot of battery drain. And those who uninstalled it suddenly found their phones lasting twice as long.

I wouldnt know as a non FB user.

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