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[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Similarly, there are a lot of really lazy bad maps out there that are trying to make some point about a statistic, but are really just population density maps. Give your up votes to the person that links the appropriate xkcd.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 10 points 3 months ago

I always think about this when people say vending machines are more likely to kill you than sharks.

Are they looking at vending machines only in beach cities or in the middle of like, Arizona too?

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's also a possibility that if humans live coyotes closely for several generations, it is likely to end up domesticated - one way or another.

Oh hang on, millions of humans already do live closely with domesticated canids.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A few days ago i tried to look up the genus of my dog breed with the presumption i would find like a family tree of how breeds relate to eachother.

Turns out the scientific name for my dog is “Canis familiaris

So is the scientific name of literaly any dog breed, its literally latin for “domesticated canine”

So yeah a domesticated coyote would indeed just count as a dog breed like any other. Scientific literature wouldn’t consider it any other way

A better stat for the post would be you have a higher chance of being hurt by domesticated animals then getting attacked out of the blue by wild animals.

[–] Ashen44@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the reason all domestic dogs are canis familiaris is because they're all the same species. They can all have non-sterile babies with each other, which is the most commonly accepted definition of a species. A domesticated coyote would still be its own species and get its own scientific name because it would not be able to breed with dogs, at the very least without having a sterile baby.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I hate to well actually you but coyote can breed with dogs and the offspring are known to be fertile for at least 4 generations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coydog

The same is true for wolf-dogs.

There are increased chances for complications so i guess fertility is lower but that is only verified to be true with wild parents specimen.

Domesticated coyote would likely be bred based on properties like ability to coexist with dogs so over time the species would merge more and more, complications would smooth out.

I believe we have a similar history with the neanderthaler.

[–] Ashen44@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

damn that's crazy to know. It's wild how stuff like this is possible, I guess that means coyotes and dogs are basically the same animal already.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

I’ve never seen a cow killing a coyote.

[–] Dippy 5 points 3 months ago

You exist in the context of all In which you live and that came before you

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Coyotes are pretty small though, I think cattle would still be more dangerous.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is incorrect because people that breed dogs almost never are killed by the dogs they breed.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It also helps that neither dogs nor coyotes are heavy enough to crush you by accident

[–] I_am_10_squirrels 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] killingspark@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago

My mom doesn't crush peopleon accident. Also it's more of a psychological crushing in her case