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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yet another programmer who imagines that having computer science baccalaureate gives him an insight into human biology. sigh.

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 32 points 1 month ago

Much like a network, the brain is a series of tubes.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago

To have the confidence of a white CS undergrad...

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

Yay, let's fight AI with eugenics!

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

shot:

The upper bound for how long to pause AI is only a century, because “farming” (artificially selecting) higher-IQ humans could probably create competent IQ 200 safety researchers.

It just takes C-sections to enable huge heads and medical science for other issues that come up.

chaser:

Indeed, the bad associations ppl have with eugenics are from scenarios much less casual than this one

going full "villain in a Venture Bros. episode who makes the Monarch feel good by comparison":

Sure, I don't think it's crazy to claim women would be lining up to screw me in that scenario

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago

Lol, the guy goes normal weird high school level shitposter when he has the slightest pushback.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

in an attempt to persuade normal people to take them seriously, they imagined themselves to be important enough to have their own version of bene gesserit. the sheer fucking hubris and nerve of these people,

also that "other issues that come up" means here "draw the rest of the fucking owl" but they don't even have crayons

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wanted to emulate bene gesserit, ended doing bene tleilax

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, I totally had something for this...

"Bene Jizzerit"

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

thank you, that's perfectly awful :-)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Considering that the idea of the singularity of AGI was the exponential function going straight up, I don't think this persons understands the problem. Lol, LMAO foomed the scorpion.

(Also that is some gross weird eugenics shit).

E: also isn't IQ a number that gets regraded every now and then with an common upper bound of 160? I know the whole post is more intended as vaguely eugenics aspirational but still.

Anyway, time to start the lucrative field of HighIQHuman safety research. What do we do if the eugenics superhumans goals don't align with humanity?

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Smh, why do I feel like I understand the theology of their dumb cult better than its own adherents? If you believe that one day AI will foom into a 10 trillion IQ super being, then it makes no difference at all whether your ai safety researcher has 200 IQ or spends their days eating rocks like the average LW user.

[–] imadabouzu@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

Oh absolutely! This is the entire delusion collapsing on itself.

Bro, if intelligence is, as the cult claims, fully contained self improvement, --you could never have mattered by definition--. If the system is closed, and you see the point of convergence up ahead... what does it even fucking matter?

This is why Pascal's wager defeats all forms of maximal utilitarianism. Again, if the system is closed around a set of known alternatives, then yes. It doesn't matter anymore. You don't even need intelligence to do this. You can do with sticks and stones by imagining away all the other things.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Aren't smaller, better-connected brains more likely to be from an intelligent person? I'm not sure there's a relationship between intelligence and brain size in general.

Also, huge head does not imply large brain inside the head.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have a big head (I needed to pick the bigger helmets when I went gokarting) so yes, there is a huge relationship between IQ and brain size. Don't mock my chunky noggin please.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

N = 1

Look out, this guy's most people.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

uses my superior vision, no caliper needed

That you felt to point out what you think is a mistake shows me you have an inferior skull. You might even have the blood of the worst people (The Dutch, the creators of the infernal word LOL, Colonizing the sea, and Big Brother (potjandorie nog aan toe!)), in you. :P

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My mom dropped me on my head when I was a baby and I still have the dent.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry only skull size on birth matters, else we could just take normal kids and inflate their skulls with pump.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus christ mate, they're listening! Don't give them ideas!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

We have seen what they think we talk about vs what we actually talk about, and they def are not listening ;)

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I said please no bully, y you bully?

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it's a compliment boo 😘 <3 u habibi

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

I don't know who that is. I still use a rotary phone.

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[–] grumpybozo@toad.social 11 points 1 month ago

@henfredemars Indeed, it is often associated with hydrocephalus, a condition rarely conducive to cognitive performance.

[–] MacStache@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago

Selective breeding, eh? There's a word for this and it was vouched for by a guy with a distinct style of moustache.

[–] sleepybisexual 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His "farming" idea is just eugenics

[–] cornflake@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Somehow he makes it sound even more misanthropic

[–] sleepybisexual 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What does misanthropic mean?

Also isn't IQ in general kinda inaccurate?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

misanthropic means person hating; possessed of contempt and malevolence toward humans as both individuals and a class. connotations of bitterness or cruelty

[–] sleepybisexual 5 points 1 month ago
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For me, it's the complete non-mention of uterus-owning people*, as if they are just a means to the end.

*I couldn't come up with a gender-inclusive term for this that didn't make me sound like a monster so apologies

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This will include dudes with multiple uterii in their freezer but they're probably outliers.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

ah, yes, I forgot to put in a second footnote about my neighbour Brian. We'd call the cops but it turns out he's the local sheriff.

[–] cornflake@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly not the most succinct guidance, but here's an Amerocentric style guide: https://styleguide.transjournalists.org/#neutral-health-terms

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

My best attempt to follow this advice produces: people who can get pregnant. Works for me!

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 1 month ago

Ahh, good old ShitCrusaderKingsSay...

Oh wait

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

double check that your rubbers didn’t get punctured.

Extra wrinkly*, for your partner’s pleasure

*the brain, that is

[–] mtraven23@mastodon.social 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@AcausalRobotGod I worked at a company (Quixey) this guy started. It did not go well or end well.

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 4 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting, I knew a guy who worked there for a bit.

[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago