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This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.
What? Prions suddenly being in dirt instead of a human being doesn't kill them, there's a whole thing with Mad Cow and soil from the UK as i recall. Part of why they're so fucking horrible is that you practically can't kill Prions.
Obscenely high temperatures are required.
The rich should be turned into fuel pellets instead.
Composting is a specific set of chemical processes that take place in a hot, highly oxygenated environment with the proper mix of nutrients for microbial growth. It is not comparable to ordinary decomposition in soil.
Composting can destroy prions, but it might be different to ensure you’ve destroyed all of them. Read more here: https://www.beefresearch.ca/fact-sheets/can-composting-destroy-bse-prions/
PS: I think it’s not good to joke about killing people, even shitty people.
PS: I think it’s not good to joke about killing people, even shitty people.
Then it's time to stop joking
Who’s joking about it?
This is a war, people die in war. If our enemy doesn’t want to die, let them forfeit their “power” and surrender.
Well, I was trying to be charitable. People who seriously want to murder people they’ve never met have serious emotional problems and should seek therapy.
It’s not about wanting to murder people you’ve never met, it’s about wanting to defend yourself and others.
These people are actively waging class war against us, they hold all the power while letting the planet be destroyed.
It is imperative they go ASAP, if they won’t go voluntarily the other option is by force.
We’re running out of a future to debate this.
It’s not at all the same. Violent self defense is acceptable because it’s an instantaneous decision with few options and no time to consider alternative strategy. It’s not because murdering bad people is totally fun and cool and you should do it any time it seems convenient.
Yes, bad things are happening, and radical actions are justified, if they improve the situation, and if less harmful options are unavailable or ineffective. But we could spend the entire next year debating and discussing how to defeat and destroy the power of the rich, and if we come away with a successful strategy, everything would be fine. It’s not the same as Elon Musk cornering us in a dark alley with a gun. The people collectively have far more power than the ruling class, and that power, in the present time, is most effectively wielded non-violently. We still have plenty of time and power to act, if we organize.
I don’t find this argument that going on a murder-rampage is the best strategy compelling at all. This type of behavior has never produced better living conditions any time in history that I can think of. These violent fantasies have nothing to do with the organization and action that will solve our problems, and instead act as strange fantasies for disturbed people, and to convince people that leftists are all violent weirdos. It’s actually completely counterproductive towards building the movement we need.
This type of behavior has never produced better living conditions any time in history that I can think of.
What are you on about? It's the reason why we live in the conditions that we do.
People used to literally kidnap and kill CEO's, that's how we got workers rights, marginalised/discriminated groups have had to continuously protest and riot to bring attention to their causes and get changes either systemic or social enacted or discussed.
No, we have these rights because people exercised collective power in an organized and strategic manner. Including, yes, disruptive acts of protest which if you had asked instead of trying to shift the goal posts to, you would find that I support.
The isolated cases of lone wolf killings were not frequent enough to have any real effect but what effect it did have was to cause fear and division among the people we need to organize, and to give rhetorical weapons to the powers that be.
I think you will find that war isn't a very useful metaphor for this kind of conflict. ... you get that it's metaphorical, right?
Does it really have to be? A class war (as actual war) has to be better than any other sort of war
You actually literally can't kill prions, they aren't alive, they're basically the virus debate's bastard older brother with a rap sheet that's just a list of all the people they've sent to the hospital, and then followed up bankrupting the hospital because literally everything that victim touched has to be scrapped because hospitals usually don't have the tools required to break down prions enough for it to be safe to keep anything that might have gotten the patient's prions on it.
Misfolded proteins if I remembered right, and Auroclaves (and tools that can survive it) probably ain't cheap.
Surgical tools can be autoclaved, not really big things like beds.
Auroclaves
The definition makes it sound like a fancy pressure cooker.
Guess we can just use a really heavy duty pressure cooker to cook the stuff before composting it?
The rich should be turned into fuel pellets instead.
Until the process is started with them alive, it's fine
Ugh. I hate being that guy, and I realize it's a meme, not science, but I can't leave it alone.
Composting doesn't get rid of metals, so you'd need a way to deal with them if you wanted to be safe.
I’ll bring the magnet.
Especially if the compost is used for mushrooms. They have tendency to absorb heavy metals from the ground so you have to be careful where you pick them from and what kind of compost you use if growing at home.
Okay but if we're going to be that guy, "eat the rich" doesn't mean consume their flesh.
Make sure to have some rolly polies in your compost heap to eat the rich 🍽 those little guys can remove heavy metals from the corpses of the bourgeoisie 😋
Better to phytoremdiate with sunflowers or other hyper accumulators, and then landfill the biomass
Unconditional support for comrade broccoli! 🫡
Dig a hole. Fill the bottom with a billionaire corpse. Plant a tree on top and finish filling the hole. Take a breath of fresh air.
Diggy diggy hole...
I consider this an absolute win.
Do we know for sure that diseased meat doesn't have a chance to infect a plant if used as a fertilizer?
At least in CWD-causing prions, plant accumulation is significant enough for the plants to be infectious when consumed by mice in a lab setting. So, maybe?
https://www.usgs.gov/publications/plants-vectors-environmental-prion-transmission
Realistically you feed the rich to pigs and chickens and then eat the pigs and chickens. Otherwise yes, you're just eating tainted meat.
The animals we create are morally equivalent to our own children and are owed the exact same unconditional love and protection.
You’ll feed a lot more people eating meat than composting it.
Highest and best use, guys.
With a side of mental trauma from doing cannibalism! We all love that now, don't we?
I have way too much microplastics to be good for environment. Plants would just die form all the heavy metals too
distribute them to all the carnivore species left in the wild who have become endangered because of them