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[–] dunz@feddit.nu 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

(IT support) I actually don't know where that random setting in your application is, I'm just really fast and good at guessing from doing it a million times in applications I've never heard of before.

[–] Brad 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Similar to that, just because someone works in IT, doesn't mean they can fix your computer problem. I've worked with a lot of developers who were great coders but couldn't resolve networking or random OS issues.

I'm a developer. Most of the time when I contact IT it's because they broke something I rely on, like our vCenter appliance or network communications between some Linux appliances with static IPs.

[–] dunz@feddit.nu 2 points 4 months ago

Oh yes. I support a lot of developers, and being a good programmer is not the same as understanding networking in a corporate environment or even knowing anything about printers. That's why I'm needed πŸ˜ƒ

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 months ago

That the folks in IT have any sway over microsoft or facebook's ui plans.

NO Karen, I can not make Teams go back to the way it used to be. No matter how many times you ask.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago

That what I do is easy and that I'm "just pushing buttons". Yeah, I'm pushing the right button at the right time because the whoke shebang has been program'd, cued, mixed over weeks of rehearsals so that, come show time, it's all by magic. Magic of pushing the right button at the right time while also reading the brochure, watch the stage, issue cues to other dept sometimes in 2 different languages.

Easy peasy!

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Medical field here: The vast majority of us are not in it for the money. Physicians have to spend 3 to 9 years after medical school working for a wage that works out to about $5/hour to gain certification and a medical license in their specialty. And that's after 8 to 12 years of undergraduate/graduate/doctorate education that basically has to be paid for with loans unless they're in the military or come from a rich family. So, yes, physicians do make high salaries once they're established, but there was a lot of work and sacrifice to get to that point, and very few people are masochistic enough to put themselves through that just for the money.

Also, the most expensive parts of a medical appointment/surgery/ER visit etc is the administrative overhead, inflated prices of drugs and supplies, and insurance company bullshit. Very little money from that price tag actually makes it to the healthcare workers. Your average EMT on an ambulance makes between $13-20/hour depending on the state minimum wage.

If you have a problem with your healthcare costs, that's something to take up with your representatives in government, not the EMTs, CNAs, nurses, and physicians providing your care.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a patient, the reason I'm complaining about healthcare costs is if you say something like "My job isn't to worry about the money". Well mine, as the patient, is. Sometimes it helps when I explain that financial stress is a predictor of heart disease, then they get where I'm coming from.

I need to know in advance how much this costs because I'm doing a cost-benefit analysis against other forms of harm that I can spend the money to avoid. And if you (the royal you, your entire profession) can't understand how that could be a factor, I can translate the financial cost into morbidity statistics.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm in my third year of medical school, so I've just started my clinical rotations, but one of the things that shows up on almost every reference table for physicians regarding treatment options is information on the price for the patient. I'm rotating in a family medicine clinic right now, and we pretty frequently prescribe the best possible treatment, and then when the pharmacy runs it through the patient's insurance and finds out how much it's going to cost, we then start working down the list of next-best alternatives until we can find something the patient can afford. Because there are so many different insurance plans out there, we have no idea how much something is going to cost until the insurance tells us.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I understand that you don’t have the information. But the information is retrievable, just with way more delay than we need.

Each time I talk to you, to get a new prescription for the next-best thing, it costs me about $100.

If we could get all the information systems good enough, you could prescribe, insurance could quote, and you could re-prescribe in seconds.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, most health insurance plans have a separate sub-company manage the pharmacy benefits and we have absolutely zero way of accessing their systems. It would be lovely if we could see what your insurance would cover immediately as we prescribe it, but that also runs into the problem of us not having any control over the actual pharmacy and their billing and pricing.

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 14 points 4 months ago

I'm a web developer and people seem to think that once a product is brought to market the devs are no longer needed.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm a physicist and we are actually dumb as a box of rocks.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As a mathematician I will reiterate what my supervisor told me: Math is not hard, it is only we that suck at it (said in context of me complaining about having used way too much time on what I in retrospect found to be simple).

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Physicist: Makes a weird formula, uses it for decades without knowing why it works.

Mathematician: Looks for an approach that makes sense for decades, dies.

I get annoyed with the way they use math sometimes, but I have to keep in mind there is an advantage to it (I guess).

[–] within_epsilon 2 points 4 months ago

Learning to explain math to a computer has been a major blessing.

[–] mranachi@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also a physicist, and I can confirm that we are all as dumb as rocks.

We are literally rocks

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Anything smarter than the box of rocks is just theory

[–] God_Is_Love@reddthat.com 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People generally assume stay at home parents only choose that if their spouses make a lot of money, that they are bored or unsatisfied with their life, and that it's a job that is very hard and not much fun.

Obviously I don't speak for SAHPs and maybe these things do apply to some, but my life is freakin awesome! We choose to live very simply and frugally on a single below average income and it is completely worth it every single day for us.

I have so much control over my own schedule, I can't get enough of spending time with my kid and have so much fun with them, I have more time for my own interests, self care or friendships when my spouse can take over at times after work, we get fun family time all together almost every day because we don't have to spend all evening cooking and cleaning (plus our schedule is more flexible), and this is the only job where everything I do all day long directly benefits myself and my loved ones (beyond financial support).

There is genuinely nothing in the world I would trade for this. But man do I get tired of the negative comments from nearly everyone who finds out what I do.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My brother in law is a stay at home dad too. He's a wonderful father and supportive spouse. Yall deserve a hell of a lot of credit!

[–] God_Is_Love@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

That's so cool, thank you very much!! 😁

[–] xilliah 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That you can quickly pick up coding with a few courses.

Can you learn it? Sure why not. Just keep in mind that you'll never stop learning, so it has to fit into your lifestyle.

Further, you'll have to be patient and be able to deal with stress well. If you can't adjust yourself to work in a team, you'll have difficulty finding work.

Another misconception is that coders stay alone at home in a dark room all the time. Coding is just one part of your life and people do all sorts of stuff.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah lots of people who aren't in tech think of coding as a solitary job, but it's a very social-skills-dependent job.

Social skills required to be a coder (at least; probably forgetting many):

  • Communicate complex concepts which have never been discussed before
  • Deliver things on time
  • Understand the tradeoffs of others' jobs well enough to make good decisions about when it's worth it NOT to deliver something on time (or be able to figure it out by communicating with whom you're delivering to)
  • Know the balance between asking for help and trying to figure it out yourself, including the short- and long-term tradeoffs of the two approaches
  • Know whether a problem you're encountering is your own lack of skill, your own lack of knowledge, your own lack of care, or someone else's any of those, and then communicate with others on the basis of being unsure of this
  • Deal with antisocial coworkers who can hide their shenanigans in the complexity of the code. I.e. if they're smart enough they can screw with your work, making you look bad, in a way that is extremely difficult to explain to non-technical management (and hence get support for)
  • Have the emotional stability and the hutzpah and the finesse to call things like this out when they do happen, and make those complicated explanations or deliver their abstract form
  • Understand and feel the pain of users when their systems break

As an autistic person, I struggled mightily with the social skill requirements of being a coder on a team. I ultimately failed. I'd like to go back and try again, after doing some really basic shit to improve my own character.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago

That they could get the same level of table service if waitresses were paid a flat wage.

That waitresses rely on tips to make up for a deficient wage instead of the other way around.

That less ice will mean more drink in the glass.

That the 185Β°F water from the coffee machine will clean the silverware better than the much hotter sterilizing rinse of the industrial dishwasher.

That they should wait to complain to a manager instead of telling me right away if something is off so I can fix it.

[–] blindsight 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Teacher:

Myth: The job is mostly about delivering lessons and grading tests and assignments, so once you've done a course once, you can coast forever.

Reality: designing and delivering a lecture is just about the easiest thing in teaching. And also very ineffective teaching, so it's not done very often.

Myth: School is the same as it was a generation ago, when parents were in school.

Reality: There have been huge shifts in education, with research-supported practices replacing a lot of old, ineffective strategies. The teachers who are "old school" are usually ignoring educational research out of arrogance and/or laziness.

[–] t_378@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think education is generally moving in the right direction? I have a few people in my circle that trained to be teachers and left the profession because of the lack of support from admin when dealing with troubled students (and troubled parents). They described a staff that was upside down, similar to a hospital (everyone is an admin, a very small part of the staff is actually teachers, and they never make the rules).

On the other hand it sounds like the mechanics of disseminating knowledge have increased tremendously due to research supported practices. I just wonder if the next generation is doomed, I guess.

[–] blindsight 1 points 4 months ago

I can't speak to the US, but that's not what's happening in Canada, generally. I hear the UK public system is having difficulties, too, but idk the details.

There are some places in Canada that are struggling, particularly in remote rural areas, Indigenous or not (but even moreso for Indigenous schools for historical inequity issues that we're working on meaningfully addressing with national Truth and Reconciliation work.)

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

That I know how to fix problems with their printer. That includes members of my own household.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

As an uber driver: that I know where building G is. Your housing complex is like ten acres of apartment buildings and speed bumps I have to go over while I search around for building G.

For anyone unaware, you can fine-tune the pickup point in the Uber app by holding and dragging the map.

You set the pickup point, then I meet you there. That's my side of this job.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 4 months ago

That grass is better than wild growth. Wait..

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Credit card companies don't issue credit cards, they're middlemen for the banks and take a cut from every transaction processed.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Visa and Mastercard, yes. Amex and Discover are both network and bank.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

I worked in food logistics before my current job.

People think baked goods in stores are fresh, many are packaged and flash frozen then defrosted when it arrives at the store. Even fresh baked stuff is often proofed then flash frozen, baked from frozen. Nobody but expensive bakeries has actual bakers anymore.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Not so much a professional field as a field of human experience, but being homeless.

People think the main things homeless people lack are:

  • food and drink
  • shelter
  • money

In actuality, most homeless people have at least some of that stuff. What they tend to totally lack, creating the difficulty in living a civilized life of dignity, are:

  • bathrooms/hygiene facilities
  • security
  • storage space
[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

People who think the earth is flat. I work in geographic information systems.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That it all used to be like this.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

A comedian huh?