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Rep. Rashida Tlaib: “But Palestinians are not just numbers. Behind these numbers are real people — mothers, fathers, sons, daughters — who have had their lives stolen from them and their families torn apart. And we should not be trying to hide it. These are innocent children and babies who have been bombed in their tents, burned alive, dismembered and deliberately starved to death. Where is our shared humanity in this chamber? There is so much anti-Palestinian racism in this chamber that my colleagues don’t even want to acknowledge that Palestinians exist at all, not when they’re alive and now not even when they’re dead. It’s absolutely disgusting. This is genocide denial.”

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 42 points 4 months ago

"...with a death total so high that we have been banned from telling you the number..."

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago

Good to know our government can still get shit done when it's something fucking stupid.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The only lesson learned from the COVID years: if you stop reporting the numbers, the numbers stop going up.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

it always irks me when someone says that biden handled covid when he simply had the numbers hidden from the public like a few state governors and trump tried to do, but got a lot of blowback for it.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] LoamImprovement 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the phrase you're looking for is #MissionAccomplished

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

It was, and yet, the mistake feels even more correct in this context.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"as we are prevented from giving numbers, we will now read out every name..."

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

when pbs did that during the afghanistan and iraq wars for american service personnel; they got so much blowback that they had to stop.

[–] ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

alternately: "As we are now forbidden from using the gaza health ministry, let us cite this study published in Lancet that puts the number of dead at "up to 186,000" from all factors including direct bombings and the ongoing famine created by the IDF's siege.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago

House of Representatives Votes 269-144 to Ban State Department

from Citing Gaza Death Toll

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago

That's because it's a severe undercount, right?

...

Right?

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zeratul@lemmus.org 1 points 4 months ago

Error on the link

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

Not allowing People to Know how many people have died is called being PRO LIFE!

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

This is insane.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

LADY, WE DONT TALK ABOUT THE GENOCIDES THAT WE COMMMIT

[–] Hextubewontallowme@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

That's cuz it'SS SSettler SSolidarity in action between Amerikkka and ISSrael...

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want names. I've got some angry letters to write.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

Someone should send them all copies of “The Monster at the end of the book”

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

This is why we don’t like censorship culture.

Everyone who summons a demon to help their cause thinks they can put a leash on the demon and keep it in its lane.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why is this surprising? America was founded on genocide and settler colonialism, those are core values.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe most countries need to be reorganized along different lines that don't have direct traces to said settler colonialism and genocide.

[–] neutronst4r 1 points 4 months ago

Welcome to WW3, the last war.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The provision specifically states that funding will not be “made available” for the State Department “to cite statistics obtained from the Gaza Health Ministry.”

This seems like rhetoric without any actual substance or consequences

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Gaza health ministry are the only ones that have real numbers. And they're probably barely counting now because all the hospitals have been bombed. Everyone else only has estimates.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No argument here, but seems like this bill says specifically there won't be any funding made available to cite this statistic, which it sounds like the State Department would have plenty workarounds for. This is why I said this seems like empty rhetoric

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 4 months ago

No funding made available is just the way Congress writes laws. It's all about allocating where money goes. And it's not like the state department was itching to say anything that puts Israel in a bad light.