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[–] aleph@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Labour is expected to win 410 seats, with the Conservatives on 131

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt

I think the phrase "landslide" is going to be putting it mildly.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

I'd say this is the appropriate time to actually use it and it has been overused for rather marginal leads before.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

An avalanche is just a snowy landslide.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I kind of hate that this distinctly centre-right version of a labour party is going to consider themselves as given a mandate to fill their centre-right boots, despite the fact that they're only as powerful as they are because of how utterly toxic the Tory party have become. Largely from chasing the same ends that this labour government will likely continue to chase.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not only that, but people think we're about to have a left wing government (mostly because the media tells them so, and school didn't teach them any better), and when nothing changes (at best) they're going to use it as "proof" that leftism doesn't work and fall in to the hands of even further right populists, rather than face the reality - that they've just elected more of the same, and that the system was designed to never serve us, only the establishment.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago

"Think of how much damage, in the wake of 14 years of mismanagement, an even more left wing party might do! Never again!"

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nobody thinks we're going to have a truly left wing government, as for whatever reason vanishingly few people want to vote for that.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody thinks we’re going to have a truly left wing government

Lol, nobody you've spoken to perhaps. Also if they didn't already, just wait for the media to pitch in over the next couple of years..

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Personally I know more people who've moved away from Labour than to it, I just acknowledge that people outside of cities exist and that I live in something of a bubble.

Refusing to accept that is the sort of thinking that gets Reform so many votes as many people in large cities forget that the majority of the population don't live in cities, and so don't suffer from the problems there so much (higher cost of living and lower labour availability than rural areas) and so don't care so much about progressive or socialist policies.

EDIT: sorry, it's late, I misread, I'll keep this up and maybe edit again later because I'm too sleepy to respond to what you actually said right now

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, leftist movements in the UK tend to be idiotically self hating towards our country at best and commonly supports the literal dissolution of the United Kingdom which turns most moderates away.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah I don't really like it either, but TBH things are so bad that just destroying the Tories is good enough for me this time around.

Hopefully they'll be radioactively unelectable for a really long time, and we can push it in a better direction over the next couple of elections.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can someone break this down for the non-british? Is this a good thing?

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's a big deal because the Conservatives have been in power for the last 14 years and everyone is sick of the sight of them. Current projections show that this may be their worst showing ever.

Their main rivals, Labour, are going to dominate on a centrist platform, even though they are not promising much in the way of reform or change.

The biggest downside is that the Trumpish Reform party are looking like they'll do quite well with xenophobic, right-wing, ex-Conservatives.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In Canadian terms, the Liberal part just got a majority after a long stretch of Conservative leadership, the ones that broke from NAFTA.

Something of concern is that the People's Party actually got seats this election, even more than the Bloc. And the Green part got another seat, so there's that.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 4 points 4 months ago

I"m sure the irony is intend on an election on the same day as the US celebration of Independence. =) I watched the John Oliver episode about this election though, and congrats on what looks like Labor being the big winner over the Conservative party.

[–] Longpork3@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 months ago

Holy FPTP, that represenation is fucked. How hoes 33% of the popular vote translate to 60% of parliamentary seats?

Y'all need electoral reform.