How rude they are to Jerry in Parks & Rec. Doing a rewatch of it now and wow it is way worse than I remembered, and starts way earlier. It's not a flanderisation thing, there was a season 2 joke that made me have to pause and go online just to see how many other people felt the same way as me.
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Definitely agree. I know it's supposed to be a joke "he's such a great guy we hate him" but it's physically hard to watch.
I was kinda uncomfortable with his interactions with Chris. Chris was my favorite in the show and even his meanness towards Jerry was off-putting.
Pretty much every segment of Jerry's stand up routine in Seinfeld. I have no idea how that man became a famous comedian.
Product placements in it are terrible too
"Drake's coffee cakes ..."
The show has brought a lot of cringey memories to my life 🤢
I hate how in Disney family sitcoms as well as some cartoons, there's always the stock dumb kid that gives the majority of the humor, and it's humor that gets old.
And they get dumber and dumber by every season
The example I think that got me to dislike the trope was in Austin and Ally. The character Desmond was eating a muffin with the muffin wrapper on, and one of the characters mentioned you "have to remove the wrapper before eating it", so he removes the wrapper and throws the muffin away and starts eating the wrapper because that's how he interpreted their advice. And I'm thinking has there ever been a teenager who didn't have some instinct on how to eat a muffin.
I grow tired of how all the Pixar style movies use the same facial visual gags. They're all kinda samey.
Here's the opposite; a joke that I love from a sitcom I hate: "Secret elixir, huh? Well, I'm usually more of a bourbon guy, but when push comes to shove I don't know what the hell's in that either." - Charlie Harper, "Two and a Half Men"
Some of the Scrubs jokes aged badly. I can't remember any specifically, but there was some anti-gay humor and stuff like that. The show I still appreciated enough to get through a rewatch recently and still mostly enjoyed, but some of the individual jokes were hard to sit through. Wish I could remember one lol.
Same with Futurama. Kif repeatedly reacting disgusted at Zapp's more homoerotic antics or singing a pro-trans song, do not seem to sit right when watched with a modern eye.
I never saw those moments as Kif being homophobic. I read it as a subordinate being repulsed by the idea of seeing his commanding officer naked.
I only remember one instance of Kif being homophobic, when Zapp says Lee Lemon is filling him with “other emotions that are weird and confusing.” Not wanting to constantly see your commanding officer naked isn’t homophobia.
And his annoyance when Zapp sang a name-swapped version of Lola was about how Zapp is acting toward Leela by doing that rather than the subject matter of the original song. Zapp even replaced the trans subject with a cis one, what could a transphobe even be objecting to?
Here's the Lee Lemon clip:
No one is naked. Kiff is reacting to the statement itself. The nudity comes later and isn't reacted to.
Here's the Lola clip:
Note that before Zapp even mentions Leela's name, the patrons are already sickened by him singing it. Kiff doesn't react here, so I might have confused a memory, but still, that's quite a reaction by the audience, no?
I was giving the Lee Lemon thing as an example where I agree Kif’s reaction was homophobic, saying it was the only such example I could think of.
The patrons are responding to the way he’s performing. Zapp is broadly a parody of Captain Kirk and this scene was a reference to William Shatner’s infamous spoken word cover of Rocketman, at least until Zapp fully broke down and started wailing the name of the woman who hates him. The only reason the song is Lola is because that’s a famous song you can easily swap Leela’s name into.
I swear I remember a Kif reaction, too, by the way.
Ha! gaaaaaaaay
Aged badly as well.
Any kind of overt and heavily pushed version of their stereotyped personality is the joke.
the terrible transphobic storyline in arrested development
Wait, which one?