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[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Im very interested in an officially supported linux phone, however the fitmware seems not to be upstream(yet?). I hope it will be upstreamed, or else were back to square one with linux mobile hardware support if they stop working on it!

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

China and upstream do not combine. I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader was non unlockable too.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

~~Hong Kong only recently became part of China.~~ (This was not correct, it became part of China in 1997). I'm sure the protests are fresh in people's minds still. If anywhere would want private phones it would be HK.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait China conquered HK already???

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago

China didn't "conquer" anything. They had an agreement that would keep them independent until a certain date and that date passed. So HK now belongs to China, as was agreed.

I was a little misinformed, it turns out HK has belonged to China since 1997, and the recent protests were just because of some policy changes that make China's influence stronger in regards to their ability to extradite people into mainland China.

[–] wisha@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

They will upstream stuff, but sadly they are not going to mainline.

https://mastodon.social/@GranPC/112690143171368646

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Despite the market domination of Apple's iOS

Since when?

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The register is out of the UK and the bulk of their readership is in the US, in both places apple has above 50% market share.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Thx. I didn't knew it was that bad

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

True. Apple is straight up dystopia.

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

Despite the market domination of Apple's iOS and the legions of Android devices out there, there are alternatives in the smartphone market...

just a wierd line break

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

since you crawled under a rock /s

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

This is Patrick.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

It just shows the shady nature of this new company

[–] wisha@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

According to the Librem people: this is Android kernel (& other low level stuff) with Debian userspace, not a true Debian phone. https://social.librem.one/@dos/112686932765355105

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least it might actually get delivered, unlike the librem 5.... /s (but not really)

[–] wisha@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s already delivered - a Mastodon user got one.

But getting an OEM to make a phone under your brand is easy. The real question is how long will they keep the software maintained?

These people seem like passionate Linux enthusiasts, so one can hope.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Huzzah! A Linux phone with specs that wouldn't have looked pathetic five years ago!

Actually, those specs are comparable to the Pixel 7a I'm writing this on at a slightly cheaper price! Has the era of the Linux phone begun?

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So it will have good mainline linux support?

[–] wisha@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

No. It uses Hallium (Android kernel, basically).

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

I mean Android is not magic, but a huge step up from desktop Linux regarding security, minimalism, battery life, ...

They also just use an LTS kernel, and I even found a Vulkan package.

The simple, core principle, security without compromises, is not hard, everythig is there.

And at the same time you can fix many of the Google issues, privacy invasiveness, design that sucks...

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Furry Phone? Is this going to make me want to fuck a gazelle? Again?

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I really want phones like this to actually work and to succeed, but there are so many things these companies have to get just right -- it's a huge undertaking.

Releasing a phone that's admittedly unfinished seems really risky. People are getting sick of unfinished products being tossed at them for full price, with the empty promises from the company that those missing features will be added in later.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Furry Phone yay

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Headphone jack 3.5mm waterproof

It has a fucking headphone jack?!? I might actually consider this as my next device.

[–] Violet_McQuasional@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just use a $5 USB-C to 3.5mm DAC?

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I have the Samsung one right now, but the problem with it is that I can't charge while listening to music and I ain't gonna sacrifice sound quality with a 2 in 1 dongle.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago

Tough choice. Personally I wouldve taken display out over a macro camera.