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The whole manifest v3 announcement happened years ago and it's been at least a year since the whole timeline...

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[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 85 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If it's a YouTube vid with a thumbnail like that, there's a 99% chance that either I don't need to know this, or it contains about one minute of information in an eleven minute video

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Basically, Google trying to kill adblockers internet wide via containing addons in restrictive containers. Firefox and anything branched off of it are the only browsers not jumping on. Google apparently starting it up now with V3

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TA-DAH!! Seven seconds of reading and something I already knew

Thanks!

[–] ReversalHatchery 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some argue that certain chromium browsers, like vivaldi and I think brave will keep Mv2 support.

The weirdest is maybe how vivaldi handles this.
They say in the headline they are "future proofed", as if they would keep Mv2 support for the foreseeable future, but later in the article they admit they'll eventually remove Mv2 support when chromium does it too (that's understandable, they cannot commit to maintain it, but this way the headline is misleading).
They also don't have answers for how will users install Mv2 extensions from now on, and how will they update them (and though it's not vivaldi's fault, most of these addons or at least their Mv2 editions will be abandoned by their devs, so "futured proofed" is a weird statement here too).

But then they also applaud these changes: e.g. they portray an extension running remote code as a scary bad thing that must be abolished.
Did you know that uBlock Origin partly relies on this being possible? It employs scriptlets, which are vetted javascript snippets, that can be used by certain filterlists (not all) and your own rules. You can even set up additional repositories (including your own ones) that contain additional scriptlets.
Yeah I also see the security implications that any extension can do that, but then what about putting that very powerful ability behind a permission with a scary sign? Because for a growing number of websites simply blocking (or even editing) requests is not enough anymore! Of course the CSS based cosmetic filter will make it seem like they are gone, and then the Mv3 praising crowd can confidently tell that "I don't see any difference!", but they are still being loaded, consuming your resurces, and collecting as much information about your visit as they can.

Sorry that it got this long. This is not a response to something you said, but.. I don't even know why did I write it here specifically.

[–] Onihikage 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Vivaldi's intention seems to be to roll UBO's capabilities into their built-in ad blocker, which isn't subject to MV3's restrictions. This way they get the security benefits without losing the one thing that really needed those capabilities. Maybe there are other extensions that need the MV2 capabilities, but I don't know what they are, because thus far everyone's only talked about adblock.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

come on, Brodie is not that bad

ps (i can't remember whos channel i saw this on) If you have 2 videos with the same content and the same title but one has that style of thumbnail, the one with that style of thumbnail will get promoted by the algorithm. If I remember correctly it was something huge on the engagement

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 16 points 3 months ago

https://dearrow.ajay.app/

DeArrow is an open source browser extension for crowdsourcing better titles and thumbnails on YouTube. The goal is to make titles accurate and reduce sensationalism. No more arrows, ridiculous faces, and no more clickbait.

[–] darkphotonstudio 12 points 3 months ago

No, he's just grating and obnoxious.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] statist43@feddit.de 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And this takes more time than the wasted time on information in such videos

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, but this video style is only meant to discuss the issue, not simply tell people exactly what's happening and end it at that. But I see your point, and I've noted it: I'll make sure I share more quick and to-the-point video's when I do in the future.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

Well that's probably a good thing because some people will switch to something else that's not so privacy invasive

[–] Upstream7564@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Bad research. Brave and Vivaldi will continue the support for MV2 extension, the CEO of Brave said they will continue the support even if they have to host the code themself.

[–] Trent@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Vivaldi has said they will as long as the code is in Chromium, and are planning on it going away by June of next year.

No idea about Brave, I don't use it and never will.

This did give me the motivation to switch to back to Firefox, and later possibly Librewolf though, so thanks Google.

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[–] exanime@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Firedragon for desktop (fork of Floorp) and IceRaven for mobile (fork of Firefox)... Super happy with both

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Librewolf for Desktop (fork of Firefox with Arkenfox user.js and removed Firefox anti-features) and Mull for Android (fork of Firefox which is deblobbed of proprietary blobs and uses much of Arkenfox's user.js and Tor upstreamed privacy patches). Firefox's Resist Fingerprint (RFP) is extremely important in my opinion for privacy because it normalizes much of the identifiers for better privacy. IceRaven still has proprietary blobs included for Google Safebrowsing and other things.

Mobile browser comparison: https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

Wow cool, thanks for all the good info