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[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 51 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Huh. Even Boeing doesn't want to be associated with Boeing:

Boeing executives have repeatedly sought to make clear that the Starliner program operates independently from the company’s other units — including the commercial aircraft division that has been at the center of scandals for years.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 16 points 5 months ago

Are they independent from the cancerous management though?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

The classic rebranding ala facebook -> meta / insta, or food companies with their thousands of differently named subsidiaries.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, Obama. Really glad you privatized space travel. It's going great. Our space program now consists of Guy who wants space apartheid, and company whose name is synonymous with planes that crash for no reason.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, private companies have been responsible for every launch since the Soviet Union fell (unless China is fully state owned, I don't know)

NASA modifies equipment sometimes but they were always buying launch vehicles from private industry.

[–] SinJab0n@mujico.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

private companies have been responsible for every launch since the Soviet Union fel

they were always buying launch vehicles from private industry.

So... u r telling me the private sector only came after homework was done, just taking the rights to produce and sell? who could have guessed....

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Pretty much, yeah. At least in terms of solving orbital mechanics.

[–] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it would be so funny if russia or china manage rescue them first

[–] zhunk 7 points 5 months ago

Realistically, there's a SpaceX Dragon docked to the ISS, so that's probably their emergency shelter and ride home.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

'Last thing I remember

I was running for the door

I had to find the passage back to the place I was before

"Relax," said the night man

"We are programmed to receive

You can check-out any time you like

But you can never leave!"'

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

such a lovely place

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if they d!e upon reentry, will someone pick up them cursing boeing on amateur radio?

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago
  • The good'ol cursing seemed to work without radio or someone actually listening
  • it seems boeing was already cursed with parasites in high positions. not sure if additional cursing could actually increase a long painful death curse by anything other than its duration.
  • The "pick them up" they'ld rather want, does not work through radio yet, rescue missions for biological personnel sadly still need to be made of/by solids.
  • unfortunately radio is a bit flawed during the plasma phase of reentry, while i think the plasma phase 'is' the reentry, before is only getting closer, after its basically flying or gliding/falling down, maybe parachuting. the plasma is a bit of a barrier for radio signals they said long ago. however i was quite surprised to see a new "documentation' lately about the columbia shuttle during reentry where i was sure the original documentation said that they were in the no-radio phase due to plasma while the new 'documentation' said they could communicate through radio even seconds before the destruction of the shuttle, the new documentation even showed they had sensor metrics about first sensors to measure high temp while afaik those sensors were initially later installed only "because" of the aftermath for this very nasa failure ... so could be that also the informations we got from tha liers about the plasma phase is also a bit "flawed".
  • last, i'ld guess that they don't have equipment for amateur radio frequencies on board, all involved are picky about overall rather "deadly" leaking of informations important for the public.

so to answer your question: my guess is no one will.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft was set to mark its crowning achievement this month: Ferrying two NASA astronauts on a round trip to the International Space Station, proving the long-delayed and over-budget capsule is up for the task.

But the two veteran astronauts piloting this test flight are now in a tentative position — extending their stay aboard the space station for a second time while engineers on the ground scramble to learn more about issues that plagued the first leg of their journey.

Williams and Wilmore will now return no earlier than June 26, NASA announced Tuesday, stretching their mission to at least 20 days as engineers race to gain a better understanding of the spacecraft’s problems while it’s safely attached to the space station.

Officials have said there is no reason to believe Starliner won’t be able to bring the astronauts back home, though “we really want to work through the remainder of the data,” said Steve Stich, NASA’s Commercial Crew Program manager, at a Tuesday news conference.

Michael Lembeck, an aerospace engineering associate professor of practice at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign who was a consultant for Boeing’s spaceflight division from 2009 to 2014, told CNN that it would be difficult to determine whether additional ground tests may have caught the thruster issues at hand.

Boeing executives have repeatedly sought to make clear that the Starliner program operates independently from the company’s other units — including the commercial aircraft division that has been at the center of scandals for years.


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