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[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 56 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Yo dawg, I heard you like Linux. So I built a Linux container for your Linux phone. Now you can enjoy Linux while enjoying your Linux phone.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We definitely living in a simulation.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 4 points 5 months ago

Wonder if it's running on Linux

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

You can call it GNU/Linux if the same name for OS and kernel turns out to be confusing for you.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: Easy installation of something like Termux, GUI, Kwin and KDE, and a graphical display.

This is really good!

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not really. It seems to use a very different technology from termux.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

it's actually not that far off a chroot, it uses LXC, the really cool thing thats going on is this wayland integration, I was waiting for termux-gui + wlroots to come along, but this might just land first

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

However, it also uses halium and libhybris. That means you can't just install your favourite distro and upstream tools. Everything that needs GPU acceleration needs to be patched for libhybris. For example, that means no upstream wlroots - and the latest patched version I think is 0.12 or so.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I havent looked into it yet, but ill be looking into doing an extra shim layer if this is the case. It wont be hard to set up some basic stuff for that, wlroots for instance is great for doing nested stuff since it can forward all of the inputs we need to the nested compositor

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So how does it render to screen? Because the biggest nag on any of these previous implementations came when I needed to use VNC to remotely connect to the desktop...

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

it uses a modified wayland compositor that hooks up directly to android surfaceview. Currently if you want a chroot/proot solution, I reccomend termux-x11. it's good performance.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

A better alternative would be spice, but just a guess

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I recall using an app way back when I used to root and haxor all the mobiles that would do this. Kind of a virtualbox for the Nexus phones/tablets, but it needed root to do it. Will have to look into this, would be interesting if it can do so in user space somehow.

Edit: Damn, still needs root. Was a longshot to be able to hook into system resources without it but was hoping for some bridge function.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That bridge function would still need root (or critical level security holes) to be installed, if the ROM doesn't ship it.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 3 points 5 months ago

Makes sense, I'm so accustomed to making virtual machines and such that it becomes just a thing but inevitably at some point admin access was required to create the hypervisor, the vnic, a virtual switch, etc. Without that restriction a piece of malware could readily exfiltrate data past a local protection by just making it's own new pathway through on the fly or any number of other unpleasant things.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

if you want a non root solution, termux proot + termux-x11, or eventually termux proot + termux-gui + wayland compositor

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If someone could build a preconfigured image that has Phosh and basic phone apps, I would consider using this full time.

[–] Hector@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would be even better if it can be registered as the default launcher too

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 5 months ago

Could we uninstall almost all non system apps, make it autostart and prevent any other app from getting in the way?

[–] cityboundforest 3 points 5 months ago

I would as well

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

So I could use this to run PostmarketOS inside Android?

[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@lemmyreader @electricprism There is someone who managed to convert a proot-distro version of #alpine into a #pmos one. It's not as great as it may sound though.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

there are massive limitations to termux proot/chroot that don't apply here. proper touch support is one of them.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

this is the most useful thing android will ever do.

Once rooted.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So basically it's UserLAnd with accelerated graphics instead of VNC.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Actually, no, this seems to work on a very different principle.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

*is going to be.

[–] bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

What's the difference to "Linux deploy"?