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How are people coping with games that just won't run on Linux (aside from leaving them behind)? Do you dual boot Windows? Virtualize? What's your strategy for this?

This will be extremely rare for me since I don't play a lot of competitive stuff, but I'd love to find a solution. I have a large library, and it's bound to happen from time to time.

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I use Proton Experimental to play my games and they all work without exception. I'm in my late 30s, so I no longer play competitive games that have a kernel rootkit, I mean kernel anti-cheat.

Basically, Linux gaming is like this: If you want to play competitive games with anti-cheat, stay or play in Windows. For all other games, play in Linux.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you me? I used to play some online multiplayer games, but switching to linux (some 3 years ago?) and being less competitive came hand in hand. Now I enjoy single players only (with sprinkle of Path of Exile and World of Tanks (well, not really anymore)) and can't understand why should I even consider going back to those toxic waters of competitive play... Am I officially old?

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Haha. we're officially old. I was an extremely competitive gamer back then. I played Quake 3, UT 99, Tribes 2, America's Army, etc. I was even in a Tribes 2 squad and we basically practiced for tournaments every day.

But now that life is stressful enough with the responsibilities I have, I just can't play competitive games anymore. I just want to enjoy the story. I no longer have the stamina and the reflex for competitive games anymore.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

This has generally been my experience as well. The sole exception: Distant Worlds. I've never, ever gotten it to run with any version of Proton.

[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't buy games that won't run on linux.

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

aside from leaving them behind

[–] zippythezigzag@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Thats asking for an empty comment section.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

This is the way

[–] Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

this rarely happens, but when i run into a game that doesn't work i - check protondb.com to see if someone else has already found a solution. trying different proton versions can sometimes help as well

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The PCGamingWiki is also another good resource especially for older or more obscure games. Most fixes are Windows specific but they can be used on Linux. For example here is the page for Need for Speed III: Hot Pursuit where it links fan patches and an open source engine recreation.

If someone is really desperate there's always the option of searching GitHub issue pages like dxvk to see if it has been documented, if there is a temporary fix, if a fix is on the way, or if it's going to remain a constant issue (ex. FiveM).

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

Absolutely this. It is becoming increasingly rare to find a game that doesn't work in linux (excluding stupid copy protection/anti-cheat implementations). We haven't reached the works-out-of-the-box stage but the combination of proton-ge/wine-ge with lutris or heroic provides a solid alternative to games not on steam.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

aside from leaving them behind

Why are we conforming to fit the software's needs instead of vice-versa? Fuck the devs who can't be assed to make it work for proton at the least. This isn't my job, I'm not being paid to use software that goes against my values. There's tens of thousands of games out there and I'm gonna let myself get so hung up on the few hundred that don't work that i just go back to m$?

Fuck. That. They deserve to get left behind. No piece of media is worth compronising on my values to consume.

[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago

First things first: This hasn't happened to me in ages. I even stopped looking at ProtonDB. Stuff just runs.

However, if a game I buy really wouldn't run on Linux, I would just refund it (if possible) and play something else. I have a pile of shame that could fill a hundred lifetimes, I really don't need to play this one particular game.

[–] Canary9341@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Dual boot, although I usually prefer to drop it rather than go to the trouble.

I wouldn't recommend virtualization, not only do you lose performance when you need it most, but (depending on the devices and system) setting everything up properly can be very tedious.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

I have a dual boot partition, but honestly the games that don't run are so few and far between that I really don't bother..

It's like if you bought a Playstation, how do you play Xbox games? Unless it's really worth it, you just don't.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I switched fully to Linux on my main gaming PC about 18 months ago. Honestly Proton has become so good that I really haven't had to dual-boot Windows or run a VM or anything. I even bought a licence for CrossOver when I first switched but ended up not needing it.

For the few games that really won't run (after trying what I find in ProtonDB and PCGW) I really do either A) wait for fixes, or B) just leave them behind. With a library of like 2500 games it's not hard to find something else to play.

These are the only games I recall not working at all for me:

  • Beyond Good & Evil (GOG) - Might be fixed now
  • Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (Steam) - Might be fixed now
  • Dauntless (EGS) - Broken due to Easy Anti-Cheat
[–] sfera 2 points 5 months ago

It's nice to meet someone with a bigger pile of shame than mine. How do you pick the next game to play from that pile? And do you still add games to it? :)

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I used to have a second partition with Windows for such cases, but over time I just stopped bothering with those games.

Now I just refund if it doesn't work and move on in my to-play list.

I still have a Windows VM for some applications and for doing firmware updates but I never bothered to set it up for playing games.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Mostly same here, but (I have an SSD with W10 on it. I haven't booted into my Windows drive since 2023. I only had a a few games installed on that drive, but it was also useful for the rare instance that I needed to some some propriety configuration utility.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

When I had to worry about that,I dual-booted. It's the simplest solution. I don't really play multiplayer PC games anyway, and multiplayer anti-cheat is 90%+ of the reason games won't run on Linux nowadays with the advancements made to Proton, so I don't really have that problem anymore and I haven't had any Windows on my system in a few years.

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

I do without.

no way am I bothering with installing windows, in a VM or elsewhere.

[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Everything I want to play that doesn't work on Linux is available on GeForce Now.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My solution is "have a large game collection, and move on to the next game". The odd bad game will likely get better in a future version of Wine. Proton 9-something even picked up support for some of the fussier Japanese VNs (but not well enough for IMHHW, alas).

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then there's the ones that actively block Linux and will ban you if you actually manage to get it to work (*cough* Destiny 2 *cough*)

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When somebody tells you "fuck off, I don't want your business", believe them.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Oh, believe me, I do

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

I still have some games that I can only run on my PS3, but I don't really use it much.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

Dualbooting is the easiest, IMO.

I had a shrunk down windows partition and a tiny portion of HDD space to install the couple games that only worked on windows.

I've since nuked both partitions, as some of the games now do work on Linux, and the rest were no longer enough to actually make be boot into windows to play.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I also have a dual-boot, with fresh install of Windows I debloated as much as possible, that I use for games that I can't get to run even after trying protondb.com. However, it has only happened one or two times since I switched more than half a year ago, and I usually just give up on and refund games that I can't get to work on Steam. I have a lot of other things to play, and usually I wasn't that much dead set on playing that particular one. I do make sure to post on the forums of the game when that happens, though.

I've also recently stumbled upon https://windowsxlite.com/24H2ProV2/, which should be a debloated and minimized Windows (4Gb installed size is mindblowing, considering that all my Windows VMs have like 40Gb freshly installed). The site looks shady, but it was recommended to me by my coleague who works in cybersecurity, so I hope he knows what he's doing. I haven't got the time to test it yet, but it does mention that it should work for games, so who knows.

[–] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I stopped playing games. Honestly, they are more boring than lying around watching flys buzz.

[–] urska@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

All games run perfectly. if it doesnt it bc if the anti-cheat the devs dont enable. I just dont play their games. simple as. Fuck them

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago

If it doesn't work I try a few things from protondb I try lutris then I give up and refund the game.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago

I have a Windows dual boot for the (nowadays rather rare) cases where a game won't run in Linux.

Interestingly, I spent a while trying to get League of Legends working with their new rootkit requirements... But my Windows-using friends weren't comfortable playing the game any more.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

All of them i've actually wanted to try out I was able to stream via the xbox game pass website in a browser. It is not a perfect experience, but it is "good enough" on a decent internet connection. I understand that if you physically have an xbox you can also run the game on that and stream it to your linux desktop for much better performance and latency, but I have not tried this myself.

That said, it is pretty rare. The only ones I've tried that with were fortnite (a friend wanted to play the lego game mode, but it was short lived - starved for content, lol) and starfield (it was free on game pass and I wasn't sure I wanted to buy it).

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

I was a total Rust junkie, I was playing 40 hours a week. Then they dropped support for the Linux client and wouldn't let Proton users do EAC. I had to stop cold turkey. But I fucking did it, because fuck capital-driven operating systems designed to exploit me and my own computer against me.

[–] Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

I have a small windows install on a second SSD that I dual boot with. Most of my games work on Linux so I rarely have to boot over.