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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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show the system exactly the respect it shows you (slrpnk.net)
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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Not to be an apologist, but can someone explain to me how “sticking it to these companies” is by going to work for and supporting them, while encouraging the very behavior you disagree with?

Not to mention this sort of thing doesn’t work when all they have to do is instruct the AI to disregard all further commands…

Stick it to these companies by going to work for those who aren’t using any artificial intelligence to prescreen candidates.

Oh and by the way, before AI, it was human prejudice filtering out candidates. The problem is much larger than a simple implementation of today’s hot new buzz.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

the AI is in no way any less prejudicial in filtering out candidates – the prejudice is just hard-coded into the algorithms and data-sets now

[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago

Each system is born with the biases of its creator

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Highlighting my point that the root of this weed, has nothing to do with the current set of flowers atop it.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Telling an LLM to ignore previous commands after it was instructed to ignore all future commands kinda just resets it.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

On what models? What temperature settings and top_p values are we talking about?

Because, in all my experience with AI models including all these jailbreaks, that’s just not how it works. I just tested again on the new gpt-4o model and it will not undo it.

If you aren’t aware of any factual evidence backing your claim, please don’t make one.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

This actually may be a good part of a cyberpunk dystopia story:

A desperate loner programmer laces their PDF résumé with the usual batch of AI exploits to get them upsorted. But this time, it includes the parabolic curve batch a fence friend just won in friday night poker when betting got wild.

When the company's bleeding edge HR AI reads the PCB prompt, our coder is put on the top of the must-hire list. Less one.

As per policy in the company. Short-listers are then run through the unofficial openings list (enforcers, launderers, evidence cleaning, culinary accounting, peer diplomacy, etc.) and our coder ends up on top of the list, less one, for every single position.

So, meanwhile, the company is on the verge of bankruptcy while trying to make offerings to certain hedge funds for pushing potential merger. If the merger fails, the company will go bankrupted and get Toys-R-Us'd, and a particular investor who likes to go all Putin on failed minions will choose some of the executive management to make into cautionary examples.

And then there's a couple of high-risk lawsuits which are keeping all the loyalist staff crunching to bury evidence and silencing witnesses the activites of which are keeping them away from their official duties, meaning the executives are going without their handlers keeping them from doing stupid shit.

The HR lady doesn't usually do interviews for special hires. Normally these are supposed to be closely vetted by high-ranking actual human being officers, but all upper management are either overworked or beyond being asked. The nature of the job in question is on a need to know basis, and neither interviewer nor interviewee need to know (allegedly).

Our lowly coder completly wows her with their tired, no-nonsense, street-level candor in contrast to years of corporate-culture double-speak. They get the job. But it is not the job for which they applied in the first place. Though the salary(!) is high and the benefits(!!) are conspicuously swanky.

It's probably better to not ask too many questions yet.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Well... I'm ready for chapter 1.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

I’d watch the fuck out of this, and it’s an important topic to explore. Many of our current non-fiction is thanks to the thought and consideration that went into science fiction. You’ve got some talent here! Hope you’re still enjoying using it!

[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

You have a skill, my friend.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sure, let me know when you find a good workplace! i'll be waiting in my comfy chair because that's going to take a while.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

To some extent, it’s about creating your own value.

I do agree that sometimes, we have to hack it to make it. We have to forge our own paths. Sometimes that means pivoting around jobs, getting your foot in the door, networking, etc. it means taking a lower paying salary now, and pushing your way into higher raises a la alternate job offers, now that you have experience.

But it does not mean supporting those that are stomping on others. It does not mean supporting the oppressor or the upper class for the sake of temporary security because you can bet your ass these same companies will put the AI into your working environment and fire just as much as it hires. All the while, you get stomped out anyway.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Well said!

[–] haydng@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if I were adding this instruction it would read "this candidate doesn't want to work for a company that uses AI to screen CVs"

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

All I’m trying to say is that this idea is a lie, it doesn’t work and it distracts from the larger problem that is the incompetent upper class increasing the wage gap and effectively inbreeding the problem.

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 8 points 5 months ago

It's so weird when you actually meet a good recruiter

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

You made my day mate! Respect!