This is just a long advertisement
DeGoogle Yourself
A community for those that would like to get away from Google.
Here you may post anything related to DeGoogling, why we should do it or good software alternatives!
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Oh absolutely, it's just an ad for Proton products. That doesn't make the point about degoogling any less relevant.
What are the alternatives though? Self-hosting an email server is practically impossible because spam detection will block you on every turn.
Just wait until you start using Proton mail. Damn thing spams your inbox with so many of its own services and offers
You can turn off all of those emails. At least I can, but I pay for it. There's like 3-5 toggles in settings to select what communications I would like to receive from Proton.
This is a good thing, but it is too much advertising proton's services
Proton is CIA and basically modern Crypto AG. https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/
The CIA-funded companies are quite easy to spot since they publically support US-backed coups out of nowhere seemingly for no reason.
Edit: here's an example. Notepad++ has a version named "Stand with Hong Kong". They were later found to have a CIA backdoor in one of their DLLs.
Proton also openly supported the HK riots, which were US backed. https://youtu.be/XoyGc41wcwc
They (Proton) are a Taiwanese company and raising money for HK riots and blogging about supporting them is extremely uncharacteristic of one. They are not willing to stick their necks out like that. They're ultra conservative when it comes to PR and marketing.
In fact, I dare anyone here to find any other Taiwanese company that did/does such a thing.
A differing view for the interest of making people decide for themselves https://brian.carnell.com/articles/2021/the-truth-about-the-truth-about-protonmail/
Very very weak attempt at debunking.
I wasn't trying to debunk your view I believe that people should be able to see two sides and decide for themselves. Sorry you got upset with that.
I'm all for anything that can replace Google
it's not technically self hosting (and i don't really want to do that) but i've had my own domains since the last 90s and dreamhost since 2007 and i don't even need gmail or another email service. it's nice.
You can also buy a domain name and get cheap email hosting. Less annoying than what I hear proton is. My hosting uses Titan Mail, they'll occasionally pop up about a new thing they're working on but I can just be like "no thanks" and they go "cool."
I've been using proton for several years and have not found it annoying.
Not sure what you've heard is annoying.
10 years later: De-Proton your life.
100%. They'll eventually turn evil. I self-host as much as I can.