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[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The only ones that are weird not to see are Foundation (though I'll allow that since I, Robot is here), Left Hand of Darkness and Consider Phlebas.

Other than that, this is great.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

I can think of others, like 1984, brave new world, flowers for algernon... it's an opinionated list. They shouldn't call it "the best of all time" without a credible source.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Martian made this list? There was nothing thought provoking about that movie, completly forgetable.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The book was interesting, partly because of how it came to be (it was originally self-published and gained notoriety and support afterwards; quite the opposite of how publishing normally goes).

Outside of Fifty Shades, that's not common, especially in modern mass market literature.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Well, books are always better that Hollywood adaptations. But other than watching him sort out how to survive, it had no deep sci-fi thought probing that I would think would warrant it as a much watch scifi classic.

[–] asymmetric@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Caveat about Ender's Game and Orson Scott Card: dude is a fucko whackjob irl, just pirate it lol

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

He also used to be the editor of Compute!magazine.

But you're right, he Scott Adams'ed himself before Scott Adams did.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

The heck. How can an intelligent person writing such amazing books have such misinformed and hateful views?

[–] tox_solid@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Hyperion, anyone?

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Lol Slaughterhouse Five isn't science fiction.

!Billy has severe PTSD and dementia, "traveling through time" is him reliving the trauma in his mind. All the shit about aliens (which takes up a very small portion of the book) is his hyperactive imagination acting as a coping mechanism!<

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 2 points 5 months ago

I was wondering if I was reading the book right with that description.

[–] Ixoid@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I hated SH5 so much, I am disappointed to see it take a spot on this list that could have gone to an enjoyable novel.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What constitutes "Iconic SciFi"? I get that your not including "The Bible", but what about "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health"?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Presumably books that describe themselves as fiction is part of the criteria.

Being promoted as fact while clearly not being is disqualified

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Seen some pretty bunk top sci-fi lists lately while looking for new stuff. I figure the ad-bait sites have binned their low-pay intern writers for ChatGPT.

Frankenstein is a much better synopsis than it is a novel.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 2 points 5 months ago

That's a very odd selection.

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

For something intended for people who haven't read these books, there sure are a lot of spoilers.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

No Roadside Picnic.

No Solyaris.

No Voyage of the Space Beagle.

No Mars Trilogy by KSR.

No Starship Troopers.

[–] Person264@lemmings.world 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't think the vogons were the ones with the answer to the ultimate question in H2G2