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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@feddit.nl 122 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And uh… no easily identifiable tattoos?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But then how will people immediately know if they're cool or not???

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

As a tangent this is what has always irritated me with movements like the pro- legalization of weed.

I work 9-5 make good money and have 3 kids. I'm north of 40. I am not the same as the Billy bong pothead everyone sees at every rally because people like me stay the fuck away.

There are many of us that do not want to announce ourselves that are in the system actively working to change it for the better of everyone. Tattoos and a torn jacket do not make a punk.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago

Maybe if people like you had some balls and weren't judgmental and disparaging to the people out there fighting for change and visibility you'd have some more movement on legalization. Jeez man your comment is kinda fucked.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago

And ? Why the hate on billy bong pothead?

[–] Umbrias 4 points 6 months ago

So you're annoyed with the pro legalization movement because ... You didn't partake...? Or is it because you ... Don't announce your beliefs...? Because people are different from you but believe in the same thing... ? Sibling in this universe what are you talking about.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the deal with tattoos? I'm somewhat interested in getting some, but I don't want to get them if they'll make things more risky in the future. Then again, at an action you should be in black pants and long sleeve shirt with gloves and a mask, so maybe it doesn't matter all that much as long as you cover them?

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cover them, and don't get arrested, because if you get arrested, they will strip you naked in order to force you to shower and make note of any tattoos you didn't divulge in booking.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What are the repercussions of them being noted after arrest? Is the main thing that you're at higher risk if the tattoos are easily visible and there's a warrant for your arrest in the future?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Think of it like having your name, address written across your forehead. On its own a tattoo is benign but it's another item that can be used to personally identify you

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

All the tattooed people also make non-tatooed folks easier to identify, unfortunately.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, but there are already other things that make me stand out like being tall and masc + long hair. Would tattoos make a meaningful difference at that point?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Yup. Depends on how paranoid you want to be.

IMHO if those in power want to identify you they will, tattoos or not.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 41 points 6 months ago

And cover any identifiable tattoos.

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 6 points 6 months ago

Aww, some people have the sweetest parents :3

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

i actually know people like this, i love my life

[–] MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I wonder, when are you supposed to put on your mask, at the protest, on the way there, when getting out of home?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago

On the way home I'd think

[–] cobra89 4 points 6 months ago

On the way there I would think.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 months ago

At the protest I would think

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

On the way there, I would think.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Like, I get the point, but if you are too much of a coward to put your face with the cause, I am automatically assuming you don’t really care and just want the attention

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe you just don't want to be identified by bad actors who can and will doxx you?

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe, but it just shows that you don’t think the issue is worth a full measure, just a half one

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not wanting your family to get murdered by fascists is a half measure?

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do you see a lot of that happening?

Now if we’re talking about dictatorships and shit then yeah, and I absolutely Americanized this because of the college campus protests, so I retract my statement for everywhere but America.

Mea culpa

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 6 months ago

Have you not seen the extreme rise of violence from the right in the past decade??

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Yes. Though I am from the authoritarian state. But I wouldn't say the US is that much different. Sure they might not murder you outright, but they can and will make your life at least a little more miserable

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How is it a half measure? Not everyone can (or should) be a symbol

You could post your legal name and other socials on here... It would do nothing to make you more convincing imo. But by that logic, not doing so is a half measure

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

the attention you won't get because your identity is not known?

[–] cobra89 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is privilege talking, you should read Little Brother by Cory Doctorow.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago

Blah blah blah. You can’t throw the word privilege around for everything.

Don’t get me wrong, I have plenty of it, but the poor and rich, white and black all bonded together unmasked before.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you're anonymous because you want attention

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago

Maybe attention isn’t the right word, basically I feel like you don’t actually support the cause, you just want to pretend you do.

The people who actually care are willing to take those punishments and the sheer fact that they are willing to do so is what shows they care.

Not showing yourself, shows a lack of dedication to your cause, you aren’t willing to sacrifice, other than some time, you won’t have any permanent consequences.

It’s a “put your money where your mouth is thing.”

They want to pretend they care to make themselves feel like they are doing something, but not sign their name for the cause.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

what's on the parent's right bicep? it looks like the three arrows but mashed up with the big line go up

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

It's the squatter's symbol