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Also the problem of the algorithm that thinks it knows what you like to see instead of showing your subscriptions
"Six months ago you did a single search of a walkthrough for a Mario 64 level, so here is a feed filled with only Mario 64 speedruns"
I'm always wary of clicking a YouTube link scared it would poison the feed.
Newpipe solved this
Why not browse your subscriptions through subscriptions section? I understand that it's annoying that you can't make it default on startup in the app but it's there.
From the app drawer in android you can long press YouTube to get this drop down:
Then hold and drag subscriptions to your home screen.
I didn't know this was a thing and I want to thank you!
You're welcome.
Bro life changing
While this feed issue is manageable if you Pause Your Watch History and Clear Your Watch History before doing so; it does disable a lot of suggestions.
Unfortunately Google and YouTube do not make these options easy to find and they are quick to nag you about turning them back on; and You Must Refuse This and ignore the errors and whines at every prompt for a while before they leave you alone.
So by it's very nature NewPipe completely defuses this garbage by simply being a much saner front-end than using the "Native" YouTube apps ever were.
You know I think YouTube might start learning their lesson if more and more people began refusing to use their scummy front-end more than strictly necessary. Unfortunately they're going to go through the usual stages of grief while doing so and they absolutely are currently trying to attack apps like GrayJay and NewPipe with spurious lawsuits.
So instead; maybe those of you who "Pay" for YouTube Premium should simply cancel your service and start donating that amount to projects like NewPipe, when that is possible. (Yes I know Team NewPipe will not accept donations for legal reasons, but similar projects do exist, like FreeTube or Invidious, that can and do accept donations to cover costs for server hosted things in their developments.)
I wouldn't be renewing my subscription once it expires. I mainly used YouTube Music from it but Google still hasn't managed feature parity with either Spotify or with it's previous incarnation Google Play Music either. I mean, they shoved the cast button that few people use replacing the next button used to skip to other track.
Play Music had a much cleaner interface on both desktop and mobile.
I am still angry at google for killing Play Music. You could upload your own files, back in the day. It was a genuinely awesome and unique product that I used every single day.
You can still upload your own music files (50k is the limit, I think) via web interface.
Huh.. so you can. That’s interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.
I just checked Google support site and apparently the limit is 100,000 songs now, which is quite great. The problem is, they don't tell if and how much, is the music compressed when uploading. Even flac is listed as a supported format but if Google starts storing bit perfect flac without compression, they are gonna give way way more than 15 GB before a power user can hit halfway their song limit.
Functionality is also nonexistent on administrating uploads in YT Music. At least on GPM you could edit basic tags and upload/edit album art. None of that on YTM
Aye; I remember GPM, and before they enshittified it into the ground, it was damn near comparable to Spotify.
My bookmark goes directly to the subscription page. I never see the home page algorithm
The algorithm issue is why I allways curate my youtube watch history, if I don't, my recommendations would quickly be messed up after watching videos outside of my normal interests.
I don't think recommendations being messed up by the algorithm is the real issue with YouTube (or any big tech social media platform). It's the fact that the algorithm is so good at predicting what you want to watch before you even think about watching it, that you slowly become pushed into an echo-chamber where your entire online space is inhabited only by people who agree with you, issues that you think are relevant, etc. It's the entire concept of algorithm-based recommendations that is messed up and it's damaging society.
Oh most deffinately, I tend to match non political stuff, but I have no idea if/how I am being affected.
The main issue with the algorithm is that it values engagement over everythibg else, so it will allway bring more extreme view points as they have more engagibg videos.
Yes, exactly. Negative emotions have been shown to drive more engagement in users, so the algorithms are designed to highlight conflict and increasingly extreme viewpoints. For younger viewers, the algorithm favours addictive content to ensure they stay glued to the screen.
Ever thought about firing the algorithm and only watching updates from your subs?
50 people uploading weekly at ~10 minutes per video is 8 hours' watch time per week. Compare with your actual time spent watching YT...
Yes, the feed can be janky for some though I liked the new video recommendations it sometimes gave. It reminded me of another gripe on their mobile app. When you go to the Subscriptions page, it shows polls, comments and videos all in a bunch instead of just the latter by default. This behaviour can be toggled off but seems to revert back every few days in my case.
Either way, subscriptions page should be for videos only, not other forms of data.
YouTube is unwatchable for me without sponsorblock so I've liked the newpipe forks that include. And on desktop I love freetube because it goes further and lets me block channels.
Yes, I installed Sponserblock too on Desktop. Also, had to disable Shorts via uBlock Filters.
I pay also, and use revanced. I watch YouTube more than any other service, and want to support some of the creators I like.
I would feel a lot less self hatred for paying google if they released a YouTube 'Lite' app that dropped everything related to shorts. Paying users should be able to use the app however they want, without having extra features rammed down their throats.
Save the money you spend on Premium, put it towards direct donations instead. Better for Youtubers, better for community-built FOSS alternatives.
YouTube Premium costs as much for just two months as Nebula does for an entire year (if you sign up through a creator's code—US prices. Australian prices it's about 2.6 months) Highly recommend, probably the best bang for your buck option.
Dropout is quite a bit more expensive than Nebula, and narrower in range of content (basically comedy panel shows, sketch comedy, and D&D), but it's still only 5.4 months' worth of YouTube Premium in cost (for your second & subsequent year—4.3 months for the first year discount), and you're directly supporting the creators. Still a very good deal.
If you've got both of those, that's 8 months of YouTube Premium's cost, leaving 4 months worth that can be spent directly on individual creators' Patreons, Kofis, one-off donations, or on their merch.
How much exclusive content is there on Nebula? I was always under the assumption that it's pricing would be higher than YouTube's. If they have done localized pricing, maybe that might be better than giving stuff to Google once my YouTube subscription expires.
Also, off topic, but some companies just convert dollar values to local currencies. I think a year of Reddit Premium in my country is as expensive as YouTube, Google Play Pass and Netflix COMBINED.
Nebula is US$50 per year if you go straight to the website, but $30 per year if you click through any one of the creators' own referal URLs. No region-specific pricing as far as I know (but YouTube does have region-specific pricing, which is slightly cheaper in Australia than America using current currency exchange rates, which is why Nebula is more expensive here than in America, in YT-months).
The vast majority of Nebula content is available on YouTube, albeit with sponsors/ad reads removed, and sometimes a week or so early.
There's a fair amount of Nebula "Plus" content. Extra or supplementary material to videos that are otherwise available on YouTube, or an extra video in a series where most of the series is on YouTube but this episode is not.
There are also Nebula Originals, where Nebula themselves helped fund the project and the video is exclusive to Nebula. There are quite a few of these, but they're less common than the other categories.
The entire library is available to browse for free without an account if you go to their website and hit Explore so you can see for yourself. Look for the Nebula logo star for Originals, the + sign for Plus content, and the lightning bolt for Nebula First. You can also use the filters near the top to see only those, if you want. To give a rough sense of the relative abundance, my tablet displays up to 9 thumbnails per screen, and when sorting by most recent, the oldest I see without scrolling is 20 March for Originals, 30 April for Plus, just 9 May for First, and when unfiltered it only goes as far back as 19 hours ago, including 2 Nebula First videos.
some companies just convert dollar values to local currencies
This is what Dropout does I think. It displayed some weird numbers like $91.74, but didn't actually say anywhere that this was AUD until I read the fine print, so I almost started out comparing it to the US YT price. I assume the US price is a more round number.
Nebula just displays US prices and charges US prices regardless, I think. It's been a while since I actually looked at how they do it.
I actually checked Nebula and it's the opposite of cheap in my country. It is THRICE as expensive as YouTube Premium on a yearly basis. I mean, even Netflix is cheaper than Nebula here, it's so expensive.
I don't think they have done localized pricing and have just converted dollar values to local currency. I doubt they even care if anyone signs up from India for their service.
Oh damn yeah. I was comparing YouTube Premium in countries like Australia (US$11.07/month), US ($13.99), and UK ($16.41). If you're somewhere that it costs a tenth of that, it definitely changes the calculus.
I don't even like the widespread use of the word "creator".
I pay for premium as well and just use Firefox for YouTube. I get tabs and a better layout
Wasn't it limited to 720p?
I don't actually know, my internet can't run 720p anyway so I never tried to do that or above.
Happy customer personally, never had these complaints.
Am somewhat late to the (third) party, why are most people here using a newpipe fork? Is the original compromised somehow?
No Tubular is just NewPipe with Sponsorblock. The original devs didn't want to add that, so a fork was created to add it.
Got it, just switched over myself because I liked the differences in the description. Thanks for letting me know!
The video quality problem really winds me up. Not gonna canc though because I bought through Turkey and it costs less than a dollar a month.
I might be mistaken but, I think cellular carriers force 480p. I always use a VPN and PipePipe, LibreTube, or Clipious so, I don't know for sure. Lol And, I do look for PeerTube content sometimes.
Yeah, I don't think any of the "creator" advert things you mentioned have much to do with the big G. I'd guess that 70% of that goes to the channel. Hopefully that much or even more.
Either way, as someone who makes music and goes to local shows, I generally avoid YT and other big platforms. I encourage other bands to upload to PT and FunkWhale. They may as well upload torrents with how much artists get paid from streaming, and use whatever third party tipping platforms.
Are you using the YouTube Music app, or the YouTube app and loading the music section? I've never seen anything you're describing.