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[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

What's the big selling point compared to ranger, nnn, yazi or broot?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I haven't used any of the 3, but from a look over them superfile looks a lot more user friendly and has a nicer overall look.

Edit; the install process is rough though, complains about missing glibc but searching for that package in apt doesn't show anything promising. It also seems to require some kind of third party font that isn't included? I gave up lol that's too much for me to deal with.

[–] moog@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Glibc is the gnu c library. You wouldn't just download that from apt. I'm surprised your Linux distro doesn't already have that installed.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely a big learning curve with how complex installing things on linux is haha, I'm still used to windows just open the exe installer and that's it.

[–] moog@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I hear that. I will say aptitude made my life a lot easier in terms of installing things with its recommended fixes. Also good software documentation should have a "Getting Started" section that gives you step by step instructions for each OS/Distro of how to install it. If it doesn't... Well maybe that software isn't worth installing anyway 🤷‍♂️

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I mean there's that, but it's a lot of work for a dev too.

I would rather Linux just be able to detect what's missing and install it for me. In the case of a lot of missing components, what it says is missing will be named completely different from the package you need to install which makes it really hard.

It was always nice with windows installers because they would come with the needed components, or windows would just prompt to install them automatically.

I guess that's essentially what Flatpak solves!

[–] moog@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

That's what aptitude does. It says "these things are dependencies that are missing. Do you want to install them?" And you can say yes, no, or ask it to try to find a different fix. And idk what you mean by that's a lot of work. If a dev can't be bothered to tell people how to install their program then idk how they expect people to use their software.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are two specific problems I see here for the mentioned binaries.

  1. The software is packaged as a generic archive, no format like rpm or deb the system package manager could/does handle. Thus, the package manager of your system does neither know that you've installed this binary nor what it depends on. The developer could have at least mentioned on which exact system the Linux binaries are supposed to work, e.g. Ubuntu 22.04, so that the user knows, that they might have issues running it on a different system.
  2. The developer could have built and packed it in a way that it can be installed by the package manager of a specific distribution. Launchpad or OBS are made for this purpose. The other option, wrapping it as a flatpak, works too, but may bloat the system of the user as different versions of the same libraries are installed (system generic + flatpak version).

Nonetheless, as a Linux user, you are encouraged to build directly from source.

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[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago

Could be a (too) old version if you're still on the Ubuntu 22.04 base

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

It depends on the distro which release is installed and available. So certainly the problem is, the required and installed glibc library do not match.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 5 points 4 months ago

I had to install Golang and build it myself to make it work with my version of glibc. But in the end the themes aren't rendered properly. In other words, proper Linux experience.

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[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 4 points 4 months ago

Or nnn for that matter. I will test it anyway.

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[–] NoInterest@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those who don’t know Norton Commander are condemned to reinvent it.

[–] Malgas 5 points 4 months ago

Or DOS Shell.

This is much prettier, though.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not written in rust, yuck! 😆

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How else is it going to fit inside of 25kb? Can they even make rust executables under 1GB?

[–] bodaciousFern@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not sure where you got the 25kb number from.

This tool is written in go and is a 7.8 MB compiled binary.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, a text based file manager is that big ? That's half of my openwrt router's memory

[–] Azzk1kr@feddit.nl 7 points 4 months ago

Because it's a statically compiled binary, it tends to grow the size of the binary. Increases portability though.

[–] thingsiplay 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you mean 1MB? With correct settings, you get under 1MB Rust binaries and with even more compression using upx it gets to 300KB, probably less for much simpler applications. Rust applications aren't that big of a deal as people make it to be; within reasons off course.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago

The one issue I have with Rust apps is how much memory they need to compile (depending on the app ofc). I could not install Pika Backup from AUR on a laptop with 4 GB of RAM for instance because the compilation would run out of memory. It's one case where I was glad flatpak is an option.

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Go is pretty cool, better than R

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would you even compare Go with R though?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because R would be weird for this use case hence Go being better for it

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

But why bring it up at all? Nobody said anything about R so why make that comparison?

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[–] GTG3000@programming.dev 16 points 4 months ago

Ah, Midnight Commander, how have I missed you.

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 12 points 4 months ago

Looks great, I'll give it a bash

[–] mvilain@fedia.io 12 points 4 months ago

Lovely little utility.

Shut up and take my money.

[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 8 points 4 months ago

@lemmyreader Looks quite snazzy!

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 4 months ago

"pretty fancy" or "pretty, fancy, and ... "?

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 7 points 4 months ago

How does it look like in a proper 80x25?

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It looks like midnight commander with some upgrades

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love mc for its sftp/ssh capabilities. It makes it so much easier to do remote admin/support.

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Linux user. Installs fancy gui. Uses terminal for file management.

/Use your own meme format.

[–] 42yeah@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Feels like dired and mc, but way more stylized and cool.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Yes. I do like that.

[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That name tho... Maybe could have chosen a different one.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 4 months ago

Nah, its easy to remember. Its a good name

[–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)
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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

This looks super cool, but I've been using midnight commander for so so long.

[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 5 points 4 months ago

Oy! You rick rolled us.

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Looks very cool!

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago
[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This file manager made me ditch nnn, very well done!

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