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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago

Dual headphone jacks. You "hear" that, Fairphone‽

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Here's specs: https://liliputing.com/moondrop-miad-01-smartphone-with-hifi-audio-features-launches-globally-for-399/

Seems nice. I just wish it had removable battery, like phones used to, so I could carry a spare around, like I used to with Sony Ericsson W200i.
Also dedicated dual SIM + MicroSD instead of hybrid.

Just got an idea, the Galaxy Flip has 2 batteries. Small one, and large one. What if there was a small one built-in, and a larger swappable one. You could then hot-swap the batteries like with some ThinkPads (those with internal + external battery).

[–] timlyo@kbin.earth 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fairphone has a removable battery pack, it's pretty handy.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 months ago

But no headphone jack.

[–] tedu@azorius.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every phone can have two batteries if you just get a battery pack.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.one 3 points 4 months ago

A powerbank is another step in energy conversion and the cables are annoying.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately making the battery removable will make the phone considerably thicker and probably easier to break which is not what most of the users want

[–] mobius_slip 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The Galaxy S5 was the last of the mainline series to have a removable battery, and was thinner than the S9 which came out four years later. It also had a pretty good water resistance rating.

Any "downsides" to a replaceable battery are a myth.

[–] pearable@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I will say my Fairphone is a good bit thicker than my work Iphone but honestly it's not a significant downside for me. The weight is a bigger deal but still not worth the trade-off for a phone I can be confident I can repair myself

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well also the internals and the battery itself is more loose so it's less resistant to high G-forces

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

I'm assuming you must be referring to modern phones here right? I never needed a case on my phone until we started getting into S8 territory when phones became incredibly flimsy and fragile. My Note 4 was plastic and aluminum and survived tons of drops. Same with the LG V20 I replaced it with. New phones are required to have a bulky case added on, which defeats the purpose of making them thin and using glass construction. Also modern phones are way thicker than the older phones with replaceable batteries even without a case on them.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Eh, thicker than without is true when evaluating against itself.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Awesome another decent phone outside of the big 3 that yet again doesn't support TMobile's bands. Just my luck...

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 18 points 4 months ago

This is a neat explanation of the purpose of the other jack, in case anyone was wondering.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

2 headphone jacks is definitely a choice. I wonder if there's at least one use case for it in 2024 though

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's aimed strictly at audiophiles. The extra jack is a 4.4mm jack that's more common in things like DACs.

An example:

https://nobleaudio.com/products/dac-amp-with-4-4mm-pentaconn-output

Pair a phone like this with a pair of Sennheiser's and a bunch of FLAC files and you might have a really good time.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Oh so the jacks are different? Ok then. I thought the other sizes are dead or only used in niche $100k+ equipment

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Second sentence:

It has a 4.4mm headphone jack to go with the more conventional 3.5mm type.

4.4mm is for balanced audio output. This audience for this device is audiophiles.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well idk anything about audiophile stuff. I know I can't afford to even look at such tech lol

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A bit of excessive, I know, but I would love a 6.35mm jack, too.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago

Of course it doesn't support band 71, which is the only 5G band I can get at home.

[–] Rubidoo@pawb.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ROG phones have this and a headphone jack.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They also fail the jerry rig durability test. They are very bulky too.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're also from asus. Big no-no

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Meh, I was actually planning on getting a zenfone, but the limited software updates kinda put me off

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that has a locked bootloader and even though they promised you'd be able to unlock it, they never provided a way to do so. There's at least 1 case in which a user sued them over it and asus had to reimburse them.

Not to mention all of the issues with their pc hardware. They're a shit company and everyone should avoid them.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was the last <6" flagship smartphone. Not sure what to replace my s10e with. The battery is failing and I didn't get any security updates in a year. I could unlock the bootloader and put a custom rom on, but that blows the e-fuse in the SoC so bye-bye decent camera and possibly mobile banking too

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sony Xperia 5V?

Don't know about that camera stuff but mobile banking doesn't have any issues. I have the Sony phone I mentioned above, I rooted it and it has the grand total of 0 issues.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kinda pricey when you look at what competition offers in that same range

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For example? I mean, it is expensive but there are literally no other phones with the same chipset, an sd card slot and a headphone jack. Vote with your wallet, etc.

Tbf, I also got it for about $600 so in my case it wasn't that expensive.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

I wish it was 600 when it came out. In Europe it was 900€ and still is in many places, although it can be found around 800€.

As for features around the same price, for example Samsung s24 offers 7 years of software support compared to 4 at most I guess from Sony and 1 generation newer snapdragon.

But the s24 has several drawbacks for me: shitty bloated software likely with e-fuse blown if u try to root it, larger screen (6.2"), crappy underscreen fingerprint sensor(I love side-mounted capacitive), no jack, no sd.

I guess I will be stuck with the s10e for little while longer.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Kinda wild these weren’t really a thing. A lot of these DAP/DACs were already running Android & many folks don’t like carrying a second phone-sized device (my DAP is small on purpose for this… well & my previous phone didn’t haze microSD for extra storage). Was it something to do with complaince for the cell radios?

The big question mark to me would be if they open source those drivers & what not or make any required apps downloadable & sideloadable. I would make something like this my next device if I knew I could flash LineageOS for microG on it & not, you know, lose all the audio stuff that makes it special. A lot of these Chinese brands haven’t even done the bare minimum GPL v2 compliance of releasing their kernels so we would have to see on that front. The ability to control your software is just as important as repairing your hardware.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

From moondrop?! I have some really cheap iems from them, they're great

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

I love the phone despite the large size but can't get GPS working in apps