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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it's as private as they claim it shouldn't be an issue.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how can we make sure that claim isnt bullshit?

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

How can we make sure their privacy claims about search aren't bullshit?

(I still trust them though, just pointing out it is an equivalent problem)

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Try SearXNG. SearXNG is a free internet metasearch engine which aggregates results from more than 70 search services. Users are neither tracked nor profiled. Additionally, SearXNG can be used over Tor for online anonymity.

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[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is neither, their AI search features only optional at this stage. It is one of the most private implementations of AI that I've seen though.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is one of the most private implementations of AI that I've seen though.

Based on what information/criteria?

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh no :( DDG also becoming bad. Can you suggest me any other search engine (Not Self Hosted one).

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm currently stuck using DuckDuckGo myself, just with the AI fluff disabled in settings. I've tried various other search engines but they're either also buying in the LLM hype, or are just Not There Yet™ (https://stract.com, for example), or both.

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[–] massivefailure@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

Why.

To hell with anything using this AI garbage. Apparently I'm going to have to completely stop using computers because all these idiot companies are using this trash technology that just steals from other sites and presents it as its own. Time to move on from DDG.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

They claim not to save your chats and not to use them for improving the AI model. Using GPT-3.5 Turbo through DuckDuckGo is definitely better than using your phone number to sign up for an OpenAI account, so yes, I think it makes sense to use this. But ideally, you could just run an AI model offline on your own hardware, I recently saw a Lemmy comment that explains this very well: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/10348570

You can also use @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com's AI Horde as explained here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/9295041

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Honestly their results have been absolute shit for a while now. All I get are big business (mostly MS with Bing) results like Amazon links or worst yet, some BS AI built website with poorly stolen info meant to just push visitor traffic and not actually provide value.

I’ve been looking into alternates and find Yandex actually provides real results. They don’t blacklist either something all the major US engines do because DMCA.

At this point it’s like to I give up privacy and get real results or stick with DDG that seems in MS’ pocket so I have little trust they are still anonymizing your results.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not sure, but if I'm going to use AI features, I'd trust DDG more than I'd trust the big players in AI.

[–] conductor@lemmings.world 4 points 6 months ago

If you will use it your question will be sent to OpenAI or Anthropic and possibly DuckDuckGo companies + search engines it is connected to.

If you don't your question will be sent to the website you chose, possibly to DuckDuckGo + search engines it uses.

So you decide what is more private in this case.