Should we replace bees with mathematics? Those two aren't exactly valid substitutes for each other.
this post was submitted on 21 Apr 2024
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I would much rather this than OP's proposal.
Ooh look the monkeys like that one. Funny bees!
Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy. Sorry for the confusion.
Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy
They're not though.
Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge.
Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions.
Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.
They're also spelled differently, aha!
@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine:
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abortion laws
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your nation's stance on Israel
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marriage's effect on taxes
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individual custody disputes
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animal cruelty laws
Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even
Plain ol science
I'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive.
Observe what exactly?
Model what?
Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals?
Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here.
Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has.
Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
c/iamverysmart c/iamaclosetfascist
Science tells us how to achieve objectives, democracy what our objectives should be. (obviously this doesn't always work perfectly in practice).
OP's just ignoring every comment that points this out.
It's a dumb point. Basically fanfic/dogmatism processed through a child's brain. I'd really rather spend my attention on something better
It's amazing how small the 99% is. Narrow and shallow. I am re-astonished every time I come here. It's like the zombie apocalypse happened and nobody noticed.
Would you like to explain how choosing an objective is fanfic/dogmatism? This is what everyone cares about. You're not going to convince anyone to change to a different system by ignoring the thing they want.
What does that even mean? Do you mean the methodology? Its not meant for decision making, its made to determine the nature of things.
A clear indicator that I reached the bottom of the community
Bottom? This is par for the course.
This is why we need people to study humanities. STEM majors taking a few undergraduate courses and then spending the rest of their lives thinking science is a replacement for a system of government
I would argue OP hasn't studied science either ๐
It is fun how you just know that every downvote or negative comment just bolsters op's ego because to them it shows how the masses are stupid and they are one of the few who know how things should be. Replacing "democracy" with "science" makes no god damn sense because science is not a form o government. How hard would it have been to elaborate how you imagine your "scientific" goverment to work? I guess you would atleast have basic knowledge about politics. So what we got was the question of a 6 year old. How do you expect insightful comments?
It would stop being science very very quickly, and just be "hey girl, heard you want your son to attend the "control group" school".
From that one sentence a horrifying distopian sci fi unfolded in my brain.
Democracy cannot coexist equally with capitalism.
If we're talking about the right kind, are they not parts of the same thing?
Did you see the movie, Divergent?
I don't think I did. Good and relevant?
Yes it is. Dystopian society divided into classes, erudite, dauntless, abnegation, candor, amity.
You had me at dystopian
Lol! It's ollllld but good. Even the sequels.